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B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:29 pm
by Gary
A seriously disturbing video on Twitter of a B-17 crash at the Dallas Air Show

I’ve removed the link. Reported to be the Texas Raiders B-17 and a P-63

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:38 pm
by Mark Owen
RIP blue sky's. :(

Regards.

Mark.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:41 pm
by GreenBat
Horriffic… very difficult veiwing 😟

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:41 pm
by reaper493
Various videos appearing all over of it now.

One hell of an accident.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:43 pm
by Jason Grant
Shocking scenes, RIP and blue skies to all involved.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:48 pm
by Alf
Looks like two aircraft involved, a mid air collision.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:54 pm
by PeteHemsley
God, my heart goes out to those poor souls. One of the worst things I've ever seen.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:16 pm
by sgtangel
It’s like watching something in a war film! Truly horrific!

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:36 pm
by Red-Eye-Knight
I know there is no swearing aloud on here but holy s**t that was awful to see.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:37 pm
by wolfie138
i don't understand how the thing came apart, the fuselage and both wings two separate complete pieces. i'd've thought the wings would separate.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:47 pm
by STN RAMP RAT
wolfie138 wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:37 pm
i don't understand how the thing came apart, the fuselage and both wings two separate complete pieces. i'd've thought the wings would separate.
the P63 sliced right through the fuselage which is why it broke into two parts, its horrific.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:53 pm
by Red-Eye-Knight
The P-63 looked to be going very fast compared to the B-17s speed the impact looks horriffic.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:54 pm
by Ghost from above
Looks like a loss of situational awareness. Awful and unsurvivable. My thoughts go out to the families.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:05 pm
by Blackcat1
Shocking to see . An awful end . Godbless them all .

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:21 pm
by Finty
Awful, RIP.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:26 pm
by Malcolm
Supra wrote:
Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:41 pm
Talking of 'on-board' it awaits confirmation of minimum crew/min' fatalities on the B-17. :whistle:
According to a friend of mine, minimum crew on Sally B during displays is 4 persons - pilot, co-pilot and two engineers. The two engineers are required in-case of undercarrage lowering failure, when it takes two 'men' to hand crank down the gear and flaps.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:33 pm
by Undertaker
ASN saying five onboard the B-17 + 1 on the P-63 all died

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:10 pm
by Vulture 01
Wolfie,
A few years ago I went inside Sally B at Duxford. The structure is very simple, and, to my eyes a bit flimsy. Stringers with a single layer of skin rivetted to it. With the speed of the P63, plus that of the '17, the Kingcobra would have sliced through the rear fuselage pretty easily. Whatever the cause, and who ever got it wrong, a group of aviators died out there yesterday, and that should be a cause of sadness to all who love these old aircraft.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:58 pm
by Nighthawke
Quite right, people died and respect for their passing should be all that is required here. The speculation argument always comes up but IMHO is unwarranted af the moment especially casting blame. Dignity please.

Re: B-17 Down at Dallas airshow

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:00 pm
by The Phantom
Very sad to see - with the loss of several lives and two aircraft :'(