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LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:29 am
by Uncle Sam
Can anyone on here explain why some tanking sorties from Mildenhall for USAF are LAGR callsign while others are QID callsign?? :huh:

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:28 am
by iainpeden
Could somebody just explain call signs full stop!

Ask me about airshows or Phantoms or aircraft modelling and I am fine; call signs, notams etc are like trying to understand Martian.

(Just goes to show the wonderful diversity of our hobby.)

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:30 am
by Finty
Uncle Sam wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:29 am
Can anyone on here explain why some tanking sorties from Mildenhall for USAF are LAGR callsign while others are QID callsign?? :huh:
I was wondering this too as LAGR callsigns only started appearing about a month ago and I wondered if it was to do with an exercise.

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:33 am
by martin condon
I believe it is for tanker flight going out to the eastern bloc to meet up with the 48th FW aircraft on TDY there, but I could be wrong.

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:35 am
by POL
martin condon wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:33 am
I believe it is for tanker flight going out to the eastern bloc to meet up with the 48th FW aircraft on TDY there, but I could be wrong.
They've been used for sorties refuelling B-1s, B-52s, F-15s, RAF RC-135s, and more so that's not correct.

It may just be a second callsign for the 100th ARW, I'm not sure why everyone is getting so excitable over it.

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:38 am
by martin condon
I stand corrected.

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:44 am
by reaper493
Seem to remember reading somewhere that Lagr/Larga/Larger call signs are for Exercises or Operational Sorties, and Quid is for training/every day sorties?

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:35 am
by Alf
Finty wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:30 am
Uncle Sam wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:29 am
Can anyone on here explain why some tanking sorties from Mildenhall for USAF are LAGR callsign while others are QID callsign?? :huh:
I was wondering this too as LAGR callsigns only started appearing about a month ago and I wondered if it was to do with an exercise.
I thought the LAGER callsign was being used due to the pubs reopening post lockdown....

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:37 am
by Supra
If Carlsberg did call-signs, this would surely be the answer?
Probably the best 'Lager' in the World!
Also bear in mind the GBP (Quid) has recently dropped in value?? :whistle: ;)

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:48 am
by Finty
EGVP wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:35 am
martin condon wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:33 am
I believe it is for tanker flight going out to the eastern bloc to meet up with the 48th FW aircraft on TDY there, but I could be wrong.
It may just be a second callsign for the 100th ARW, I'm not sure why everyone is getting so excitable over it.
No ones getting excitable, this is a forum where people can ask questions, is it not? They’re probably just wondering why it’s only been used fairly recently.

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:25 pm
by POL
Just seems to be lots of people needing to know why, but aren't asking the same questions about the new Marham callsigns, for example.

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:33 pm
by reaper493
Probably because Marham F35s are hardly ever visable on tracking sites?
Far more people use tracking than have a scanner I'm guessing!

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:43 pm
by baz1
Supra wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:37 am
If Carlsberg did call-signs, this would surely be the answer?
Probably the best 'Lager' in the World!
Also bear in mind the GBP (Quid) has recently dropped in value?? :whistle: ;)
house special, soup of the day Carlsberg :D

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:04 pm
by andygolfer
baz1 wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:43 pm
Supra wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:37 am
If Carlsberg did call-signs, this would surely be the answer?
Probably the best 'Lager' in the World!
Also bear in mind the GBP (Quid) has recently dropped in value?? :whistle: ;)
house special, soup of the day Carlsberg :D
Is it only used during the happy hour?

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:37 pm
by Finty
reaper493 wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:33 pm
Probably because Marham F35s are hardly ever visable on tracking sites?
Pretty much

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:37 pm
by Finty
EGVP wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:25 pm
Just seems to be lots of people needing to know why, but aren't asking the same questions about the new Marham callsigns, for example.
Since when was 4 people a lot?

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:36 pm
by Snoop 95
Finty wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:48 am
EGVP wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:35 am
martin condon wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:33 am
I believe it is for tanker flight going out to the eastern bloc to meet up with the 48th FW aircraft on TDY there, but I could be wrong.
It may just be a second callsign for the 100th ARW, I'm not sure why everyone is getting so excitable over it.
No ones getting excitable, this is a forum where people can ask questions, is it not? They’re probably just wondering why it’s only been used fairly recently.
I noticed this callsign recently too and wondered why it has suddenly appeared. There must be a reason and I was not brave enoguh to ask as someone was bound to take a 'pop', as has now been done. Surely its OK to ask basic questions on here without fear of derision?

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:53 pm
by Finty
Snoop 95 wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:36 pm

I noticed this callsign recently too and wondered why it has suddenly appeared. There must be a reason and I was not brave enoguh to ask as someone was bound to take a 'pop', as has now been done. Surely its OK to ask basic questions on here without fear of derision?
Don't ask questions or else you'll get a middle walloping...

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:17 pm
by andrewn
There may be an element of a nod to history here. LAGER (or LAGAR!) was an old callsign used back in the 1980's by the Fairford based KC135s of 11th SG. When the 11th SG disbanded the callsign fell into disuse, until this reincarnation....

Re: LAGR and QID callsigns

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:59 pm
by big john
I have heard it pronounced several times as LAGGER as in the person who insulates pipes and tanks, nothing to do with the fizzy fighting juice.