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Re: help

Post by Ben Montgomery » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:51 pm

The pictures look like a mix of Google Earth, PlanePlotter and FlightSim - I'd be a bit cautious with that. :unsure:

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Re: help

Post by Mike » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:03 pm

If you scroll-down and read the description it appears that it's just a CD of what's available online for free.
Save your hard-earned dosh fella !

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Re: help

Post by Mike » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:43 pm

lee19822 wrote:ok thanks where would i find it online ?
This CD isn't available online for free,it just seems to be a load of links to different sites that are free (and will be mostly civil anyway).

What do others think,have I read the description correctly ?

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Re: help

Post by jingernut » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:31 pm

The description in eBay for the item is very clear that it's not a program you are buying, but information of websites that offer the services (mainly for free, some you can pay for).

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Re: help

Post by RichC » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:38 pm

Lee,
This chap is trying to sell stuff which is provided for free on the internet, he should be ashamed of himself and told so.

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Re: help

Post by jingernut » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:53 pm

RichC wrote:Lee,
This chap is trying to sell stuff which is provided for free on the internet
That is indeed true, but there are probably a lot of people who maybe won't know about some of the sites / info that he can supply, or even know how to find that info out.

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Re: help

Post by Mike » Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:58 pm

lee19822 wrote:where would i find sites with this info ?
By the look of the screenshots this is one of them (civilian) :- http://casper.frontier.nl/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: help

Post by GOOSE » Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:59 pm

http://www.planefinder.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - almost instant

http://www.radarvirtuel.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - allow a minute for it to load

http://casper.frontier.nl/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - again may have to wait a few moments

or my fav - Planeplotter - just Google it.

Hope you get sorted. :thumb:

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Re: help

Post by pilot_ngb » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:37 pm

On his youtube video he is showing screen shots of planeplotter that is available from coaa. Costs 20 euro.

Must admit if I had a bunch of links saved up over 18 months I would probably just share them with people. I guess some people are just greedy. :grr:

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Re: help

Post by pilot_ngb » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:39 pm

And his ebay item clearly states that some software require on online registration. That will be planeplotter.

I hope no one every buys his stuff. Google works just fine for me!

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Re: help

Post by TheLincolnImp » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:03 pm

GOOSE wrote:http://www.planefinder.net/ - almost instant

http://www.radarvirtuel.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - allow a minute for it to load

http://casper.frontier.nl/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - again may have to wait a few moments

or my fav - Planeplotter - just Google it.

Hope you get sorted. :thumb:
Probably the best post ever on FC,many thanks.

GOOSE

Re: help

Post by GOOSE » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:06 pm

A pleasure Mr Imp. Do you live near the pub and statue? :)

TheLincolnImp

Re: help

Post by TheLincolnImp » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:13 pm

About a mile from said statue,but not being a pugilist i stay clear from the pub :D

TheLincolnImp

Re: help

Post by TheLincolnImp » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:56 pm

Softbill Man wrote:Hi matey, i live near the Imp as well. I own the viewing enclosure at RAF Waddington.
Come along and say hello.

John :thumbs:
I know you do john,will have to introduce myself at the wave when i have time,you know my boss (slater)

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Re: help

Post by GOOSE » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:14 pm

Almost always civilian unless the military aircraft is "squitting" it's location (ie broadcasting a clear Mode-S code with location data enabled)

Planeplotter has a feature which allows the presumed position of Military aircraft to show on screen. It's called Multilateration and requires at least 3 (I think) people to be tracking it. The system then triangulates to show presumed location.

Think that's about right anyway, hope it helps. :)

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Re: help

Post by POL » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:18 pm

GOOSE wrote:...requires at least 3 (I think) people to be tracking it. The system then triangulates to show presumed location...
Hate to think what a 2 sided triangle would be like! :P :whistle:

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Re: help

Post by old_git » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:05 pm

a triangle and triangulation are completely different.

a triangle is a geometric shape having 3 angles bounded within and 3 angles externally.

triangulation is a process which takes 3 bearings from north to a point of transmission, for this you need direction finding equipment in order to establish the bearing to the transmission source from the receiver.

this bearing can then be plotted on a map, using 2 or more receivers located at different places allows the bearings to be plotted and where the lines cross is the point of transmission.

Multilateration does not use triangulation as this would require direction finding equipment at each receiver, which sbs and airnav does not do.

Multilateration uses time differences from a number of receivers of a certain transmitter against a master clock to plot a number of parabolic curves based on these time differences, it then calcualates the most probable position based on the intersection of said parabolic curves.

GOOSE

Re: help

Post by GOOSE » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:44 am

Cheers Mr Git :lol:

Explained it perfectly :thumb:

And to Chris Globe - :P :P :P back at ya :lol:

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