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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by lardyboy999 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:10 am

Alf wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:06 am
lardyboy999 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:04 am
Bucky P wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:40 am
I think this aircraft was fitted out a few years ago, it's been used by government officials since around 2017 I believe! This paint job is an add on and one of Boris's vanity projects, because he can!
Aye, I think there were still some significant upgrades to what was already on Board as part of the scheduled maintenance/refit though. And it was definitely due a respray. I've no doubt BoJo

We can speculate until were all blue in the face. The fact is it's happened. Let's all just deal with it and move on.......
Some newspapers are saying a large part of the cost was the fee paid to the design company the Gov employed to come up with the livery.
Don't believe what you read, it's just poo-stirring. Unfortunately that's what happens when you PFI something, the consultancy fees are bigger than the costs to do the darn work! Unless proved otherwise, it was all in the original costs.

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by toom317 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:11 am

Hate the gold united kingdom, and having googled vespina, I can't find anything remotely connected to britain. A moth native to Hungary!
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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by TonyO » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:38 am

lardyboy999 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:10 am
Alf wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:06 am
lardyboy999 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:04 am


Aye, I think there were still some significant upgrades to what was already on Board as part of the scheduled maintenance/refit though. And it was definitely due a respray. I've no doubt BoJo

We can speculate until were all blue in the face. The fact is it's happened. Let's all just deal with it and move on.......
Some newspapers are saying a large part of the cost was the fee paid to the design company the Gov employed to come up with the livery.
Don't believe what you read, it's just poo-stirring. Unfortunately that's what happens when you PFI something, the consultancy fees are bigger than the costs to do the darn work! Unless proved otherwise, it was all in the original costs.
Newspapers are spot on, the £900,000 covers the design, development and application of the paint scheme, nothing else, no servicing, no VIP interior fitment, that was already onboard.

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by lardyboy999 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:49 am

TonyO wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:38 am
lardyboy999 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:10 am
Alf wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:06 am


Some newspapers are saying a large part of the cost was the fee paid to the design company the Gov employed to come up with the livery.
Don't believe what you read, it's just poo-stirring. Unfortunately that's what happens when you PFI something, the consultancy fees are bigger than the costs to do the darn work! Unless proved otherwise, it was all in the original costs.
Newspapers are spot on, the £900,000 covers the design, development and application of the paint scheme, nothing else, no servicing, no VIP interior fitment, that was already onboard.
Thanks, Tony, I know you're a pretty good source for info, but unless that's from the horse's mouth, I'll reserve judgement. If that is true, then I was very probably right on the consultancy fees for the design, as it certainly doesn't cost that much to paint the jet. Hey-ho, every day's a school day.

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by Fighterfoto » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:59 am

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Some newspapers are saying a large part of the cost was the fee paid to the design company the Gov employed to come up with the livery.
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Simply not true, design was done in-house.

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by C24 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:09 am

FYI

Perhaps posted elsewhere but just in case, here is a video

https://www.forces.net/news/new-look-vi ... -paint-job
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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by ChrisCwmbran » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:34 am

Found this link which might be interesting to those on here who aren't perma-enraged:

http://www.defenceimagery.mod.uk/fotowe ... 5062020a))

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by C24 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:57 am

Looks like it is currently over the ne doing AAr with a lightning

Freedar shows operator as Royal Air Force United Kingdom Livery

Edited Saturday

See post by acw367. This is Operation Crimson Ocean, started 10th June apparently.
Both links well worth reading and viewing some cracking good images. Of course, to be able to capture such shots a back seat trip in a Hawk is required.

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by rainers » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:02 pm

C24 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:57 am
Looks like it is currently over the ne doing AAr with a lightning

Freedar shows operator as Royal Air Force United Kingdom Livery

Photos to follow I'm sure ;-)

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by mustang5861 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:08 pm

C24 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:57 am
Looks like it is currently over the ne doing AAr with a lightning

Freedar shows operator as Royal Air Force United Kingdom Livery
ZM135 was up from Marham and with ZZ336 about an hour ago. Was replaced by Typhoon ZJ935 (Fang0012) down from Lossie and which I believe is still with ZZ336 over the North Sea.

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by reaper493 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:12 pm

ZM135 is still in America so won't have been that one, 135 near enough always shows as the F35 up on certain apps.

F35 launched from the Carrier, not Marham.


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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by mustang5861 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:14 pm

I thought it had been doing a lot of flying recently!

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by C24 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:58 pm

Slightly off piste, has any of the F-35 pilots adopted “Greased” as their callsign?

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by lardyboy999 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:04 pm

C24 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:58 pm
Slightly off piste, has any of the F-35 pilots adopted “Greased” as their callsign?

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Diddly-boom-TISH!

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by TonyO » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:21 pm

lardyboy999 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:49 am
TonyO wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:38 am
lardyboy999 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:10 am


Don't believe what you read, it's just poo-stirring. Unfortunately that's what happens when you PFI something, the consultancy fees are bigger than the costs to do the darn work! Unless proved otherwise, it was all in the original costs.
Newspapers are spot on, the £900,000 covers the design, development and application of the paint scheme, nothing else, no servicing, no VIP interior fitment, that was already onboard.
Thanks, Tony, I know you're a pretty good source for info, but unless that's from the horse's mouth, I'll reserve judgement. If that is true, then I was very probably right on the consultancy fees for the design, as it certainly doesn't cost that much to paint the jet. Hey-ho, every day's a school day.
From the RAF's own press release: "Design work was performed by AirTanker Limited and Airbus DS (the Design Organisation for Voyager) from February 2020 to May 2020. Repainting the aircraft was conducted by the Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group at their facility in Cambridge in June 2020."

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by lardyboy999 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:27 pm

TonyO wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:21 pm
lardyboy999 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:49 am
TonyO wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:38 am


Newspapers are spot on, the £900,000 covers the design, development and application of the paint scheme, nothing else, no servicing, no VIP interior fitment, that was already onboard.
Thanks, Tony, I know you're a pretty good source for info, but unless that's from the horse's mouth, I'll reserve judgement. If that is true, then I was very probably right on the consultancy fees for the design, as it certainly doesn't cost that much to paint the jet. Hey-ho, every day's a school day.
From the RAF's own press release: "Design work was performed by AirTanker Limited and Airbus DS (the Design Organisation for Voyager) from February 2020 to May 2020. Repainting the aircraft was conducted by the Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group at their facility in Cambridge in June 2020."
Agreed, but as far as I'm aware, all within the original costs under the SDR.

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by binbrook87 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:34 pm

First impressions not bad at all. Agree with other comments....serial a bit too large and 'stuck on' and the roundels a bit small but that's just nitpicking. Very welcome addition to the (semi) mil fleet.... and it's got to be better than GRRREEEEYYY! 😕

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:51 pm

Bucky P wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:40 am
I think this aircraft was fitted out a few years ago, it's been used by government officials since around 2017 I believe! This paint job is an add on and one of Boris's vanity projects, because he can!
The paint job is necessary. I once was on a military aircraft that almost had to divert to a large national airport in a capital city. Thankfully we didn’t, and afterwards we learned that the country in question were glad as a military marked aircraft wasn’t overly welcome at their airport.

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by effects » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:31 pm

ColintheCaterpillar wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:51 pm
Bucky P wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:40 am
I think this aircraft was fitted out a few years ago, it's been used by government officials since around 2017 I believe! This paint job is an add on and one of Boris's vanity projects, because he can!
The paint job is necessary. I once was on a military aircraft that almost had to divert to a large national airport in a capital city. Thankfully we didn’t, and afterwards we learned that the country in question were glad as a military marked aircraft wasn’t overly welcome at their airport.
You were lucky, I got diverted once to Cardiff in a Herk, it was the same day they sat the vc10 on its backend at Brize and lyneham was shrouded in fog. :thumb:

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Re: RRR622 Voyager ZZ336 (new paint scheme)

Post by acw367 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:45 pm

The RAF press office have released the article on the Voyager doing its normal refuelling job here https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles/vi ... al-duties/

And the full set of 45 air-to-air pics are here on Defence Imagery Database http://www.defenceimagery.mod.uk/fotowe ... =5&search=((26062020a))

Photoship was a 100 Squadron Hawk XX261 as shown in one of the photos

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