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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by bizfreeq » Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:28 pm

Think this confirms a certain amount of the above as being true:
viewtopic.php?f=287&t=190756#p1193026
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by martin condon » Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:31 pm

Good to hear that some aircraft will escape to live another day.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by Alf » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:05 pm

Mike wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:56 am
Vulcanone wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:48 pm
The B-52 landed in 1983, after the M11 was finished
I stand corrected and thanks for pointing that out, H & S certainly wouldn't allow anything like that to happen these days though! :thumb:
The B-52 landing at Duxford was on the shortest ever runway a B-52 has landed on (as mentioned the M11 was already there). Seem to remember it landed somewhere else first (Brize / Mildenhall?) and had lots of kit removed to keep the weight down and was then loaded with a bare minimum of fuel. It then flew two practise approaches into Duxford before its final (and last ever) landing.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by graham luxton » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:22 pm

Alf wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:05 pm
Mike wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:56 am
Vulcanone wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:48 pm
The B-52 landed in 1983, after the M11 was finished
I stand corrected and thanks for pointing that out, H & S certainly wouldn't allow anything like that to happen these days though! :thumb:
The B-52 landing at Duxford was on the shortest ever runway a B-52 has landed on (as mentioned the M11 was already there). Seem to remember it landed somewhere else first (Brize / Mildenhall?) and had lots of kit removed to keep the weight down and was then loaded with a bare minimum of fuel. It then flew two practise approaches into Duxford before its final (and last ever) landing.
The B-52 flew in from Brize Norton where it had arrived on the 4 Oct'83. The police closed the M11 either side of the runway just before it joined the circuit until after it landed.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by thevulcan » Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:02 pm

bizfreeq wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:28 pm
Think this confirms a certain amount of the above as being true:
viewtopic.php?f=287&t=190756#p1193026
Great news hopefully more such as WT333 and the lightnings can follow suit. Just with a lot of funds :blush:

I know the lightnings will not be asked to leave but if they stay it will be unlikely they will able to carry out any more fast taxi days.
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Post by thevulcan » Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:36 pm

Sorry for the double post but thought i would post cotswold airports post of the move
Great news for The Buccanner Aviation Group, it was announced today that they will join us at Cotswold Airport. we’ve both kept this quiet for a while whilst discussions were underway.

Our new instrument approach looks like it’s not far away, which will allow more business jets to operate. This is our area of growth.

There are many other groups at Brunty looking for a place to operate; Cotswold Airport is going from strength to strength, perhaps we will have a resurgence of classic military jets at Cotswold Airport.......

It’s a tough time at the minute, but with collective aviation effort, we can get through it."
Seems they are also in discussions with some of the other groups based off of the third paragraph. :pop:
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by binbrook87 » Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:06 pm

Great news about the Buccs. Kemble seems to make perfect sense for all the remaining aircraft at Brunty too. Fingers crossed. Even if some airframes were to stay at Bruntingthorpe I don't think it would ever be the same..... hemmed in amongst all those vehicles with limited runway use (if any?)
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Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:22 pm

Great news for TBAG. Hopefully some of the other operators can follow suit.

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Post by thevulcan » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:29 pm

The official fund page is live with rewards for those digging deep.
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/save-relo ... ards#start

Updated 18/06/20 at 10:04
77% has already been raised :thumb:
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Post by Del » Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:27 am

The @BuccaneerGroup twitter account seems to be rather dormant. Maybe some publicity via that route might help (I don't use Facebook).
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Post by thevulcan » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:49 pm

Anyone heard anything from any of the other groups? Rumours are circulating about the LPG relocating however don't know how true that is. The VC-10 is considering options for the future and possible relocation. And the Classic british jets collection of (Meteor, Venom, Gnat sea Vixen and hunter and 2 JP's) are looking for a new home now as well hopefully they will see the light of kemble to keep things together still. If we loose '333' at least XH134 can be a sort of replacement as it won't take much to get taxying.
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:23 pm

There should be more clarity on the VC10 situation in the next week or so.

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Post by NAM Updater » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:44 pm

Happy to take the information down - sorry if it's caused any issues! :blush:

The time-frame it contained was better than the one communicated directly to me by the group a while back; and I thought that the content might assist with their stated 'market research' aims. :Oops:
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:23 pm

Yep, the VC10 Preservation Group intended to clarity the situation later this week, but others outside the charity that run the aeroplane have jumped the gun a little.

As Facebook would say, “it’s complicated”.
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by plmc135 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:12 pm

So you would go to British Airways the main operator of the VC10 (BOAC, BA, BUA, BCAL), don't think they are too healthy at the moment. So that would leave East African (RIP), Middle East Airlines, Ghana Airways (RIP), Nigeria AIrways (RIP), Gulf Air and Air Malawi (RIP).

Sorry, there is a VC10 at Cosford, one at Brooklands, one at Dunsfold and one at Newquay (current situation unknown); there are also several nose sections dotted around the country. Really don' t think there is a call for another one.

It is the same as with XH558 there are sufficient other Vulcans around that there is no incentive to preserve yet one more.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by 3Greens » Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:20 pm

We must have more space to park all those unsold cars !! :@ Can't believe the notice of removal is so short. Is a single flight certification a possibility ?

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Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:18 pm

plmc135 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:12 pm
So you would go to British Airways the main operator of the VC10 (BOAC, BA, BUA, BCAL), don't think they are too healthy at the moment. So that would leave East African (RIP), Middle East Airlines, Ghana Airways (RIP), Nigeria AIrways (RIP), Gulf Air and Air Malawi (RIP).

Sorry, there is a VC10 at Cosford, one at Brooklands, one at Dunsfold and one at Newquay (current situation unknown); there are also several nose sections dotted around the country. Really don' t think there is a call for another one.

It is the same as with XH558 there are sufficient other Vulcans around that there is no incentive to preserve yet one more.
Valid points. ZD241 is notable as a runner (with ZA150 at Dunsfold very obviously under threat). From a cold “commercial” viewpoint it would be difficult to justify moving it to become a static exhibit.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by roughcutter » Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:10 pm

If it's possible to find new homes for them in the short space of time left, could any of the fighters be winched (under a Chinook?) to the new location? It's been done before, an F-100 was lifted from Heyford to Croughton, and I think somewhere or other it's happened with a Lightning as well. Just a random thought :)

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ZD241_VC10 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:36 pm

VC10 Preservation Group Statement on the current situation at Bruntingthorpe

Like the rest of the aviation community, the VC10 Preservation Group recently learned that Cox Automotive UK Limited was to take over the site at the Bruntingthorpe Proving Ground near Leicester.

Since then, the VC10 Preservation Group has been trying to establish the future scope of the site and - more importantly - whether there will be any future involvement with aviation. Sadly, at this time it is our considered opinion that there will be none.

Currently, the VC10 Preservation Group is the custodian of former RAF and British Airways VC10 K.4 ZD241 (G-ASGM) and sadly, we feel that the VC10’s fate is now distinctly uncertain. We hope a solution can be reached between the aircraft owners and the new owners of the site at Bruntingthorpe; or perhaps with a possible future move for the aircraft.

While we are aware of these confidential discussions taking place, the VC10 Preservation Group is not party to them and as a consequence, are unable to make any comment on them.

Until such times as we may have further information, no further statement will be made by the VC10 Preservation Group or anyone purporting to be acting for us.

In the meantime, we wish to thank everyone who has supported us during the last five years – from our initial running of ZD241 right up to the formation of the charity - permitting us to allow our supporters to join us on the aircraft on the unique taxi runs that occurred at Bruntingthorpe.

Bruntingthorpe, 15 June 2020.

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