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P-8 Delivery Schedule

Post by Ghost from above » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:15 pm

Article from Jane's on the delivery schedule of the P-8's
Better get a move on with the runway works obviously subject to the weather playing ball and its Scotland so no chance of that!


The first UK P-8 was handed over to the RAF in October and is scheduled to fly to Kinloss in March or early April 2020. The second aircraft will fly to Kinloss at around the same time and the third aircraft will follow it to this airfield by the end of October.
It is hoped that runway resurfacing work at RAF Lossiemouth will have progressed enough for the fourth aircraft to be flown to the airbase, via NAS Jacksonville, by the end of 2020.

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https://www.janes.com/article/93075/uk- ... y-schedule
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Re: P-8 Delivery Schedule

Post by Fighterfoto » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:45 pm

The first Poseidon MRA1 will arrive at Kinloss in Feb.
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Re: P-8 Delivery Schedule

Post by Thunder » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:09 pm

I think you'll find that Kinloss and the surrounding area have milder Winters than areas like East Anglia and the Fens.

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Re: P-8 Delivery Schedule

Post by warhawk121 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:03 pm

Fighterfoto wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:45 pm
The first Poseidon MRA1 will arrive at Kinloss in Feb.
is it official that the official designation for the P8 will be the MRA1 or will it also retain the A designation as used my the US Navy and its other operators?
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Re: P-8 Delivery Schedule

Post by turmo » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:43 pm

warhawk121 wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:03 pm

is it official that the official designation for the P8 will be the MRA1 or will it also retain the A designation as used my the US Navy and its other operators?
I''m not sure what you're asking but yes the official MoD designation is Poseidon MRA1. Pedantically it should be MRA.1 or MRA.Mk.1

The P-8A designation is only specific to the US DoD. To Boeing it's the 737-8FV.

The RAF website is fairly lax about designations so don't rely on it for anything official.

The Globemaster didn't receive a name-mission-version designation in RAF service, though, allegedly because they're leased. Which just sounds like a lame excuse.

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Re: P-8 Delivery Schedule

Post by Unknown74 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:07 pm

To me it will be the Boeing P-8 Poseidon MRA.1 if it ever appears in my logbook. Never seen an American one yet.

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Post by Thunder » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:55 pm

turmo wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:43 pm
The Globemaster didn't receive a name-mission-version designation in RAF service, though, allegedly because they're leased. Which just sounds like a lame excuse.

Lame excuse indeed considering that only the first four were leased until they were bought outright in 2008. The remaining four a/c were bought outright as they were ordered between 2006 and 2012.

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Re: P-8 Delivery Schedule

Post by Vulcanone » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:28 pm

Turmo the first 4 C-17s were leased. They dropped that when we bought 4 more.

All are now ours and Not leased even if they never gave them a formal name

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Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:28 am

Vulcanone wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:28 pm
Turmo the first 4 C-17s were leased. They dropped that when we bought 4 more.

All are now ours and Not leased even if they never gave them a formal name
Probably because they realised doing so would just cause unecessary confusion to our allies and fellow C-17 operators.

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Post by mustang5861 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:55 pm

ColintheCaterpillar wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:28 am
Vulcanone wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:28 pm
Turmo the first 4 C-17s were leased. They dropped that when we bought 4 more.

All are now ours and Not leased even if they never gave them a formal name
Probably because they realised doing so would just cause unecessary confusion to our allies and fellow C-17 operators.
But they were happy to cause 'unnecessary confusion' by naming the A400/Grizzly the Atlas... :huh:

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Post by Vulcanone » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:04 pm

Do any of the other countries that use it actually call it the Grizzly?

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Post by TonyO » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:55 pm

Grizzly was an unofficial name given to the A400M by the flight test team.
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Post by Vulcanone » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:21 pm

That's what I always thought.

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Post by roger4 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:00 pm

Boeing announced yesterday the temporary halting of 737 production in January, due to the ongoing 737 MAX grounding. The halt is for an unknown period but it seems likely to be for several months. Hence I suspect the delivery of our third P-8 onwards may be delayed.

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Post by markranger » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:18 pm

roger4 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:00 pm
Boeing announced yesterday the temporary halting of 737 production in January, due to the ongoing 737 MAX grounding. The halt is for an unknown period but it seems likely to be for several months. Hence I suspect the delivery of our third P-8 onwards may be delayed.
Think that is for the MAX Variant, P-8 should be ok.

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Post by Seahornet1 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:32 pm

markranger wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:18 pm
roger4 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:00 pm
Boeing announced yesterday the temporary halting of 737 production in January, due to the ongoing 737 MAX grounding. The halt is for an unknown period but it seems likely to be for several months. Hence I suspect the delivery of our third P-8 onwards may be delayed.
Think that is for the MAX Variant, P-8 should be ok.

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Looks a bit ambiguous to me. The press statement headlines with "Boeing suspends 737 MAX production ", but the text states "...temporarily suspend production on the 737 program ...", without clarifying whether other 737 variants are affected. :unsure:

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Post by Bluetail » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:59 pm

The P8 is very different from the Max as its based on the 8NG which is a completely different aircraft design. The P8 has has been said before on this platform will not be affected by the issues of the Max. And it will called the Poseidon MRA.1 not P8 MRA.1, and they will be maintained by the Poseidon Line Squadron at the new build facility at RAF Lossiemouth
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Re: P-8 Delivery Schedule

Post by roger4 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:53 pm

I agree that the Boeing press statement is ambiguous.

However all airline 737NGs have been delivered, so without any Max coming down the line, that only leaves the NG-based P-8s, together with the odd C-40 or E-7, that Boeing could build. As Boeing only build small numbers of these (16 this year out of ~500 737s built) I can't see them running the plant just to assemble one military airframe every three weeks or so.

As always, time will tell.

(Edited 21:17L to correct total 737 production so far this year)

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Post by Agent K » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:28 am

Bluetail wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:59 pm
The P8 is very different from the Max as its based on the 8NG which is a completely different aircraft design. The P8 has has been said before on this platform will not be affected by the issues of the Max. And it will called the Poseiden MRA.1 not P8 MRA.1, and they will be maintained by the Poseiden Line Squadron at the new build facility at RAF Lossiemouth
Small correction, I think it's the PoseidOn

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Re: P-8 Delivery Schedule

Post by plmc135 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:04 am

roger4 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:53 pm
I agree that the Boeing press statement is ambiguous.

However all airline 737NGs have been delivered, so without any Max coming down the line, that only leaves the NG-based P-8s, together with the odd C-40 or E-7, that Boeing could build. As Boeing only build small numbers of these (16 this year out of ~500 737s built) I can't see them running the plant just to assemble one military airframe every three weeks or so.

As always, time will tell.

(Edited 21:17L to correct total 737 production so far this year)
Not quite correct there are still two 73NG's to be delivered to airlines. The final production machine, for KLM, ironically had to have a new fuselage allocated as a major fault was found with the original one.

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