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IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:48 pm
by jackjak92
Hello
Was just reading about the squadron being stood up and the article says that some aircraft will be painted in distinctive markings to identify as "adversaries".
Do you think the RAF will copy the USAF aggressors with similar paint schemes or not?
Jack
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:53 pm
by markranger
Not, They also have to manage the QRA ( Quick Reaction Alert )
Mark.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:04 pm
by Fighterfoto
Do you know for sure or are you speculating?
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:41 pm
by Agent K
Fighterfoto wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:04 pm
Do you know for sure or are you speculating?
No, it's fact, they will be providing a QRA role too.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 3:15 pm
by Reptile 1
RAF Lossiemouth welcomed a new, fourth operational Typhoon squadron to augment its mission to protect UK and NATO airspace today.
The personnel and aircraft of IX(B) Squadron will be at the heart of the UK’s Quick Reaction Alert (QRA) Force, ready to take off within minutes of an alert being triggered.
Some of the Squadron’s aircraft will be painted in distinctive markings to identify them as training ‘adversaries’, in their role as ‘aggressors’. In this role, they will provide a sterner training test to RAF and NATO fast-jet pilots, as they will play the role of opposing aircraft which match their speed and manoeuvrability while using the latest real-world dogfighting and air combat tactics against them.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 4:07 pm
by Thunder
QRA aircraft could be pooled from any of the squadrons but flown by IX crews. So they could easily have a few a/c “painted up”, time will tell.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 4:55 pm
by Fighterfoto
Agent K wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:41 pm
Fighterfoto wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:04 pm
Do you know for sure or are you speculating?
No, it's fact, they will be providing a QRA role too.
Thanks to the others who responded understanding my point was about the colour scheme and not QRA.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 6:18 pm
by Agent K
Fighterfoto wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 4:55 pm
Agent K wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:41 pm
Fighterfoto wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:04 pm
Do you know for sure or are you speculating?
No, it's fact, they will be providing a QRA role too.
Thanks to the others who responded understanding my point was about the colour scheme and not QRA.
Whooops, never good to read and answer on the go! My understanding is that these are earlier Tranche aircraft so specifically would be kept to the Air Defence role whereas the later aircraft in the other squadrons would do more multi role stuff. As to what that means in the aircraft used for QRA etc. I wouldn't know. Although the whole squadron wouldn't be QRA.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 6:40 pm
by Fighterfoto
The Squadron’s primary role is QRA. This alleviates the pressure on other Typhoon squadrons who spend a lot of time on the road or on Ops. It also means that those posted to IX will spend less time away from home.
In addition IX’s secondary role will be to provide a 4thGen adversary capability.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 7:05 pm
by jackjak92
Sorry everybody didn't mean to cause confusion about the squadrons role when I posted haha.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:09 pm
by markranger
Reptile 1 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 3:15 pm
RAF Lossiemouth welcomed a new, fourth operational Typhoon squadron to augment its mission to protect UK and NATO airspace today.
The personnel and aircraft of IX(B) Squadron will be at the heart of the UK’s Quick Reaction Alert (QRA) Force, ready to take off within minutes of an alert being triggered.
Some of the Squadron’s aircraft will be painted in distinctive markings to identify them as training ‘adversaries’, in their role as ‘aggressors’. In this role, they will provide a sterner training test to RAF and NATO fast-jet pilots, as they will play the role of opposing aircraft which match their speed and manoeuvrability while using the latest real-world dogfighting and air combat tactics against them.
Well if that’s the case that would be Awsome.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 11:23 am
by Supra
Don't get too excited about any Aggressor paint-schemes. These are hard times for Defence Budgets, best you can hope for is a red tail-fin vinyl sticker with added lettering 100 Years "
of Bad Guys" !
Gotta use-up that 'expensive' leftover stock from last year somehow?
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:34 pm
by Unknown74
This may be the reason why my upcoming model is to have an all black scheme & be known as the “Batphoon”.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 10:10 pm
by ColintheCaterpillar
Fighterfoto wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 6:40 pm
It also means that those posted to IX will spend less time away from home.
Or you can "fill" IX with non-deployable reservists and not have to worry about manning another sqn entirely with regulars.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 8:42 am
by Fighterfoto
Sad to see so much cynicism. The OC of IX is Ex Jags and was on 3(F) when it stood up as the first Typhoon Squadron. Flying QRA, with all the responsibility that carries, and developing an effective adversarial capability demands experience so not sure where the dig at Reservists comes from. Please elaborate as the new Squadron will alleviate pressure on the Force as I mentioned previously.
No stickers this time, if you see the new Squadron patch you’ll get an idea of what’s in store. But as with the RAF100 decals, enthusiasts are not the target audience.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 10:14 am
by Thunder
Do you have a link to the new patch?
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 3:48 pm
by Surrey Sam
Bottom centre perhaps?
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 10:43 pm
by Gus0898uk
Black, Ha Ha, trying to look like 'The Migs' in Top Gun.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:17 am
by Unknown74
Thought it might be something to do with the Batman Squadron - The Batphoon.
Re: IX (B) squadron "aggressors"
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 7:19 am
by Fighterfoto
More likely one of the Russian Su-35 colour schemes.