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U S Navy to scrap 140 FA-18s

Post by eagle driver » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:02 pm

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U.S. Navy to scrap scores of fighter jets from its inventory

By: David B. Larter
Navy Times

March 6, 2018

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Navy is moving to scrap almost 140 older Hornet fighters from its inventory and accelerate the transition to newer Super Hornet models in a bid to cut the costs of maintaining old aircraft that have seen hard use over two decades of continuous combat operations.

The Navy projects it will recoup the better part of a billion dollars over the next five years, money used to fund other readiness initiatives both in the beleaguered Naval Aviation Enterprise and elsewhere.

The plan, hashed out in June, is to strike F/A-18 “A” through “D” models for a total of 136 Hornets, 66 of which will be gone by the end of 2020.

“Two strike board reviews with Fleet, CNO, and NAVAIR personnel determined that 136 aircraft could be authorized for strike because their effective life was consumed and would require significant repair,” said Lt. Lauren Chatmas, a Navy spokeswoman. “The Navy will strike these aircraft over the course of fiscal years 2017 and 2020.”

The Navy thinks this is an opportunity to get some usable spare parts for the in-service jets and help the Marine Corps by sending it the best of the remaining aircraft.

“The decision was based upon readiness risk of existing F/A-18 A-D inventory, long-term operational costs versus gain in capability, and the potential to improve USMC readiness by transferring best-of-breed aircraft to the USMC,” Chatmas said.

The plan recoups about $124 million in 2019 and $852 million across the five-year budget projection, Chatmas said. Four squadrons flying legacy Hornets will transition to the newer versions between now and the end of 2019, she said.

The Navy has been buying batches of Hornets in recent years to replace the ones that are at the end of their service lives. The service has been slow to buy its F-35C, citing development issues.

The Navy’s flight demonstration team, the Blue Angels, will have to sit tight with its legacy Hornets until there are enough “E” or “F” versions available to spare, Chatmas said.

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Post by tonkatom » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:07 pm

Would be nice for the Royal Navy to take a few dozen of the Americans hands!
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Post by Vulcanone » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:37 pm

After the USN has stricken them I suspect there won't be much left of them.

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Post by toom317 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:15 pm

tonkatom wrote:Would be nice for the Royal Navy to take a few dozen of the Americans hands!
And what would we fly them off?
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Post by Contrail1958 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:13 pm

toom317 wrote:
tonkatom wrote:Would be nice for the Royal Navy to take a few dozen of the Americans hands!
And what would we fly them off?
We could Base them at Leuchars if they were Black and White.

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Post by Dazza37 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:16 am

tonkatom wrote:Would be nice for the Royal Navy to take a few dozen of the Americans hands!
What for? They'd be utterly useless to the Royal Navy!

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Post by Agent K » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:51 am

tonkatom wrote:Would be nice for the Royal Navy to take a few dozen of the Americans hands!
I'm not sure we'd want to take any "of" the Americans hands, especially if they're tiny Donald Trump ones.....

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Post by toom317 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:35 am

Contrail1958 wrote:
toom317 wrote:
tonkatom wrote:Would be nice for the Royal Navy to take a few dozen of the Americans hands!
And what would we fly them off?
We could Base them at Leuchars if they were Black and White.
Might as well do what they did with the Phantom, and hand them over to the RAF to defend the fleet. :D AND, we could make it 43 Sqn. :thumbs:
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Post by eagle driver » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:48 am

Rather than 43Sqn how about making it 74 Sqn then we could have a tiger Sqn which actually has some teeth.

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Post by filmman » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:26 am

Looking ahead we might well need some RN jets, with a decent range/payload, to provide top cover when the non-mothballed attempt of a carrier is unavailable. At least our tankers can tank FA-18s, unlike the P-8s. Hang on I have a cunning idea, sell our "carriers" and buy lots of land based Super Hornets to use with our tanker support. The rest of what's left of the Navy can then do something else more useful than "carrier" protection.
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Post by Agent K » Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:58 pm

There were those who also mocked the through deck cruiser back in it's early days. It matured in to quite an effective capability.........

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Post by lozza » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:23 pm

tonkatom wrote:Would be nice for the Royal Navy to take a few dozen of the Americans hands!
So where do you intend they land them :'( :'(

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Post by PR9 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:42 pm

They'll be cream crackered. :whistle:
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Post by Rob666 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:55 pm

Forget the Hornets why don't we take back the Harriers sat at DM!

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Post by toom317 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:04 pm

eagle driver wrote:Rather than 43Sqn how about making it 74 Sqn then we could have a tiger Sqn which actually has some teeth.
No, 43 Sqn. :P
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Post by Nighthawke » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:23 pm

Full 56 Sqn Firebirds scheme would be even nicer :Wow:

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Post by bizfreeq » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:32 pm

Rob666 wrote:Forget the Hornets why don't we take back the Harriers sat at DM!

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Yeah good luck with that one! They don't even qualify as empty shells let alone viable airframes
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Post by Agent K » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:19 am

Rob666 wrote:Forget the Hornets why don't we take back the Harriers sat at DM!

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I think you'll find the US didn't buy them to be ornaments sat in the desert year on year, ready to hand back to the British military if needed! I doubt there'd but much if anything of use left.

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Post by Sparts99 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:20 pm

Nighthawke wrote:Full 56 Sqn Firebirds scheme would be even nicer :Wow:
yeah I'd like that, or 19, or 92. We can dream.
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Re: U S Navy to scrap 140 FA-18s

Post by the concerned » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:49 pm

They would make a great asset for the private contractors to buy as red.air adversaries

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