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e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:18 pm
by kieran
Afternoon guys,
I don't normally do this sort of thing but I feel the repercussions from the CAA announcement a few days ago from all aviation ilk whether it be enthusiasts, pilots and the general public have warranted myself to ask that if anyone reading this wants to see the CAA re-think their policy, PLEASE sign this petition.
Aviators will be attempting to see our side at the BADA symposium next week but if we can get as many signatures on this petition as we can, it *might* just make that all important difference!
Here is the link:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/120628
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:18 pm
by bizfreeq
As this is still in the consultation stage (until Feb 29th) perhaps it would be better to contact the CAA with your points as this is what a consultation is for? The email address for this is:
charges@caa.co.uk
or there is also an online form you can fill at:
http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/modalapplic ... x?appid=58
Remember nothing is yet written in stone so,whilst the petition may be a good idea,it is a petition against something that hasn't yet been implemented
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:12 pm
by stratofreighter
bizfreeq wrote: Remember nothing is yet written in stone so,
whilst the petition may be a good idea,
it is a petition against something that hasn't yet been implemented
Well, several thousands of signatures are certainly a clear signal to the CAA that they had better REALLY re-think that implementation.
I am not a British citizen to I cannot sign,
but I really do urge those who are eligible to sign the petition at
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/120628 .
Not everyone has the time/is able to fill in that form...
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:39 pm
by stratofreighter
For those who want to keep quiet;
Perhaps you want to ask your Belgian and/or German fellow enthusiasts about their current Airshow Scene in their own country.
Yes, measures taken after Ramstein 1988 and Ostend/Oostende 1997 have made these countries rather dull "airshow wise".
There aren't that many airshows any more over there, mostly just Fly-In's.
Things are "sensitive" at the moment regarding Shoreham,
but before you know it
you've got a very restrictive airshow regime lasting for several decades...
Just ask the Germans.
Keep checking on the CAA.
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:33 pm
by stratofreighter
For the Facebook'ers amongst you, try
https://www.facebook.com/groups/KeepAirshowsAirborne/
Yes, worth a visit!
You do have to log in onto Facebook though.

Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:31 am
by C24
Are you suggesting that the CAA are wrong to improve the conditions & supervision that applied during 2015?

Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:12 pm
by POL
Has that been said, anywhere, C24?
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:57 pm
by stratofreighter
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:08 am
by C24
Morning,
EGVP. I tried the link in the petition page to the CAA w/site but it gave an error message.
There is reference here to 'chaNges' & 'chaRges'.
So I still have no idea what anyone would want to petition for or against. I was looking for clarification.
I have look on the CAA w/site for recent publications & am no nearer to a solution. Hence my question.
Please do not spend your time commenting on this post, I am sure there are more important things for you to do.
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:42 am
by POL
No, pretty much the vast majority of my time at the moment is spent directing people away from the petition.
This is the link you need.
https://www.caa.co.uk/Our-work/Consulta ... n-charges/
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:50 am
by C24
Thank you for the link EGVP.
I think that for once in my life I might just " Say nowt " on this matter.

Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:05 am
by 2e1var
amazed at how little support there is, are there really that few of us

Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:38 pm
by stratofreighter
Don't set your hopes up too high...
The CAA is a "Qango", so the UK Government may reply like "it is not a Governmatter matter"...
It still best to fill in that consultation at
http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/modalapplic ... x?appid=58
to fight
http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/sta ... A%20V2.pdf
Oh, and write to your MP! Some have already responded in a supportive manner!
See
http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=71344
on how to do it.
Also see
https://www.facebook.com/groups/KeepAirshowsAirborne/
and
https://twitter.com/KeepAirborneUK
Especially that Facebook-group shows some useful ways of filling in that Consulation.
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:11 pm
by paddyboy
Well, I have signed every blinkin' form/petition I can
It can't do any harm and just m-I-g-h-t do some good
Any voice is better than no voice
Cheers
Paddyboy

Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:14 pm
by albur99
SIGNED!
AL
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:51 pm
by cottesmore09
Only the CAA consultation will make the real difference, so many have signed the petition but if they all fill in the consultation then that would have a much greater effect, but seems like everyone has been brain washed to think petitions solve the problems.
Fill in the consultation is a MUST!
Those not too sure how to do this then please use the link below, enter your details, put 3.1 in the paragraph box (that refers to the charges increase in the documents up for consultation), select the only option in the drop down menu and write your views on the price increase and what impact you believe it will have the UK airshows.
http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/modalapplic ... x?appid=58
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:39 pm
by POL
ramjet wrote:So it looks like the Parliament/Government Petition won't work!
Shock. Horror.
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:52 pm
by bizfreeq
And my original point exactly!
Re: e-Petition to ask the CAA to re-think their changes
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:08 pm
by EGDR
Not necessarily, they can still turn around and say it's a CAA consultation, not a government one - there's nothing saying they HAVE to have a debate on the issue. Even if it was put up for debate, there's little chance of it happening before the end of this month...