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roughcutter
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by roughcutter » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:13 pm
Well if all else fails you can always still reminisce at John's place (WAVE) over a sausage & egg butty and cuppa.
Merry Christmas everyone (stay safe)

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TonyO
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by TonyO » Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:56 am
No comments about the Wedgetail airframes being ex-Chinese BBJs then?
You want the Aladeen news, or the Aladeen news?
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Agent K
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by Agent K » Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:35 am
TonyO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:56 am
No comments about the Wedgetail airframes being ex-Chinese BBJs then?
It's outrageous...….. paying my taxes to go to the Chinese...…… should've stayed with the Shackleton, that did the job...…… etc. etc.
Trust this OK for you TonyO?

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TonyO
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by TonyO » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:03 pm
Agent K wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:35 am
TonyO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:56 am
No comments about the Wedgetail airframes being ex-Chinese BBJs then?
It's outrageous...….. paying my taxes to go to the Chinese...…… should've stayed with the Shackleton, that did the job...…… etc. etc.
Trust this OK for you TonyO?
Perfect, just the level of outrage I was hoping for.
You want the Aladeen news, or the Aladeen news?
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Vulcanone
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by Vulcanone » Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:34 pm
Resurrecting the old Shackleton quote per chance.... 8 Screws are better than (any BBJs).....
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by ZD241_VC10 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:19 pm
TonyO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:56 am
No comments about the Wedgetail airframes being ex-Chinese BBJs then?
I’m shocked at the level of maturity on this forum!
Given the fact (I suspect) that pretty much nothing bar the basic engineering shell of the airframe will be re-used, it’s rather inconsequential.

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page_verify
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by page_verify » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:43 pm
ZD241_VC10 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:19 pm
Given the fact (I suspect) that pretty much nothing bar the basic engineering shell of the airframe will be re-used, it’s rather inconsequential.
Reel them in TonyO, you've caught one.
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by ZD241_VC10 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:49 pm
page_verify wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:43 pm
ZD241_VC10 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:19 pm
Given the fact (I suspect) that pretty much nothing bar the basic engineering shell of the airframe will be re-used, it’s rather inconsequential.
Reel them in TonyO, you've caught one.
Nope.
If you note the first line of my the post (or do I need to revisit the maturity assessment

) and the use of emojis again you may notice there was no reeling in.
Where’s the facepalm emoji?
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Unknown74
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by Unknown74 » Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:55 pm
As you said should have gone for a new and upgraded version of the Shackleton at least the props would have been environmentally friendly.
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by Philwinward » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm
Didn’t Boeing have some investment in the new facilities at Lossiemouth ?
If so, it makes sense to base the few Wedgetails we are acquiring there for a common maintenance system ?
If Waddingtons RC’s did move to Mildenhall , the old E3 secure compound and buildings cold possibly be used as a forward repair facility for both RAF & US RC’s
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Vulcan74
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by Vulcan74 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:32 pm
Philwinward wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm
If Waddingtons RC’s did move to Mildenhall , the old E3 secure compound and buildings cold possibly be used as a forward repair facility for both RAF & US RC’s
Give Mildenhall a bit more room!
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by Bluetail » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:34 pm
Philwinward wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm
Didn’t Boeing have some investment in the new facilities at Lossiemouth ?
More than some, quite a big investment actually, over £100 Million
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Agent K
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by Agent K » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:47 pm
Philwinward wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm
…… If Waddingtons RC’s did move to Mildenhall , the old E3 secure compound and buildings cold possibly be used as a forward repair facility for both RAF & US RC’s....
Does such a formal requirement exist? seems that for many years the respective operations have managed with the infrastructure that is currently in place. It still seems some here are spending money and moving fleets, that doesn't need to be spent, to fit their wishes and needs?
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Vulcanone
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by Vulcanone » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:45 pm
The only place the RAF RC-135s go for maintenance, major overhaul and upgrades is the same place the USAF ones go to. in USA And that is not going to change
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Vulcan74
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by Vulcan74 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:06 pm
Agent K wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:47 pm
Philwinward wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm
…… If Waddingtons RC’s did move to Mildenhall , the old E3 secure compound and buildings cold possibly be used as a forward repair facility for both RAF & US RC’s....
Does such a formal requirement exist? seems that for many years the respective operations have managed with the infrastructure that is currently in place. It still seems some here are spending money and moving fleets, that doesn't need to be spent, to fit their wishes and needs?
Time will tell if they move from Waddington!!
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by ColintheCaterpillar » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:16 am
Philwinward wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm
If Waddingtons RC’s did move to Mildenhall , the old E3 secure compound and buildings cold possibly be used as a forward repair facility for both RAF & US RC’s
I suspect there may be new tenants already lined up for that real estate.
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by ColintheCaterpillar » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:08 am
Wedgetail 1 now at Birmingham.
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Supra
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by Supra » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:38 am
Go-on then, I'll bite! There are 15 Cities called Birmingham worldwide, 14 of them in the USA. Given that little gem isn't "Wedgetail 01" at the UK one a little early for 2023. Guess it could be a Civvy with a dubious choice of c/s ??

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by ColintheCaterpillar » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:47 am
Supra wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:38 am
Go-on then, I'll bite! There are 15 Cities called Birmingham worldwide, 14 of them in the USA. Given that little gem isn't "Wedgetail 01" at the UK one a little early for 2023. Guess it could be a Civvy with a dubious choice of c/s ??
Ok, BBJ for conversion to Wedgetail number one has apparently arrived at Birmingham, U.K., for conversion by STS.

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by Finty » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:46 pm
Supra wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:38 am
Go-on then, I'll bite! There are 15 Cities called Birmingham worldwide, 14 of them in the USA. Given that little gem isn't "Wedgetail 01" at the UK one a little early for 2023. Guess it could be a Civvy with a dubious choice of c/s ??
Well it’s been mentioned before that the work is being done at the only Birmingham that matters: Birmingham, UK.
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