Alleged UFO or UAP, 1990, Calvine, Scotland

[Drinkmat]

If there's anything to hide rumour, counter-rumour and dis-information are very effective. After all, there are some people who still think that RAF Gibraltar was designated as a Space Shuttle emergency abort destination!

[Seahornet1]

I never said it was

‘A question for you all, the fence in that photo looks like an RAF security fence’

Just answering a previous post.
I included myself in ‘all’ and I don’t really think it is a base fence either.

Thanks for the reply. If people here don' t think it's a base fence then it most likely isn't.

Often with UFO photo's a process of elimination is required and all avenues explored to see if the photo is "real". I have an interest in the subject and wish the photo was real, but the number of people who have accepted it without much scrutiny makes me a little skeptical.

The point is though, it most certainly is 'some' sort of security fence; the sort with tall concrete posts angled out at the top, supporting barbed wire. It isn't remotely like the simple moorland fence shown in the DM's hilarious 'Exact Spot' image.

[Arty]

This is the Disclosure Team's video that was released a few days ago, entitled "Original Calvine 1990 'UFO' Photo Found! Reveal & Investigation Video".
https://youtu.be/IgekUVzMSCc

There's also a link included ,to a detailed analysis of the photograph by Andrew Robinson, Senior Lecturer in Photography at Sheffield Hallam University Photo Analysis.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QPqd-G ... 3uZ9r/view


Robin

[Johnny]

If those fence posts should be straight tilt photo back until you they appear upright and the ufo comes to ground level and supports the hill reflecting on water theory

[gyvespa]

I’ve just read the ‘analysis’ link and I’ve got to say I’m impressed.
It’s amazing what can be sussed out from a single image.
Now if only someone had that ‘enhance’ feature like in the movies :-)

[AndrewBarclay]

In 1990 l heard an interesting report about a photographer who was photographing aircraft tails at an aircraft museum on the Solway Firth he took in image of one tail in the early dawn as he snapped this image he saw he had captured the image of something else as he swung his camera approx 90 degrees to photograph another of the museums aircraft tails he captured another image of what he had seen only seconds before at the time he didn’t think much about it Several days later he took his images to be processed at a shop
In Annan when he returned to Annan several days later he was surprised to find the shop where he had left his images to be processed was closed he made enquiries with local shopkeepers and told them he had come to collect some images he had left for developing they told him that some service cars had descended on the shop and that the owner had been relocated

[AndrewBarclay]

Something else that springs too mind forget about Calvin if you wanted to use a base for secret testing look no further than D510 RAF Spaedadam 36 Square miles of forestry l use to go to Spade almost weekly and saw some amazing exercises my favourite was Salty Hammer 150 aircraft mainly from USAFE based in Europe Participants 30 F111s with a few EF 111 A 10s F4s And other USAFE Jets What made it more interesting was that our gallant in RAF Pilots in F3 Tornados Hunters Phantoms put up CAPS all along the Eden Valley it became like a turkey shoot after they had been intercepted they all flew overSpadeadam Range those were the days of The Thursday Boys Peter Geoff Ken Micheal myself Salty Hammer was usually on a Wednesday or a Thursday lasted about 45 minutes and then we adjourned for lunch at The Gilsland Spa nice food and licquid refreshment

[Agent K]

Something else that springs too mind forget about Calvin if you wanted to use a base for secret testing look no further than D510 RAF Spaedadam 36 Square miles of forestry……

But RAF Spadeadam isn’t an airfield so you can’t operate aircraft from there!

[Sparts99]

Nor is 36 square miles much space for a manouvering fast jet, only 6x6 miles.

[Seahornet1]

If those fence posts should be straight tilt photo back until you they appear upright and the ufo comes to ground level and supports the hill reflecting on water theory

It also puts the Harrier(?) about 200 ft below ground level, so I can't say I'm totally convinced....

[daggerfan]

In 1990 l heard an interesting report about a photographer who was photographing aircraft tails at an aircraft museum on the Solway Firth he took in image of one tail in the early dawn as he snapped this image he saw he had captured the image of something else as he swung his camera approx 90 degrees to photograph another of the museums aircraft tails he captured another image of what he had seen only seconds before at the time he didn’t think much about it Several days later he took his images to be processed at a shop
In Annan when he returned to Annan several days later he was surprised to find the shop where he had left his images to be processed was closed he made enquiries with local shopkeepers and told them he had come to collect some images he had left for developing they told him that some service cars had descended on the shop and that the owner had been relocated

This seems a strange report. Firstly, why would someone be photographing aircraft tails at a museum in early dawn, unless they were trying to be artistic? This would involve using a fairly slow shutter speed, so the chances of getting something else showing up in the photo would have been remote. Secondly, why would a shop be closed and its owner relocated simply because someone handed in a film for processing? No-one else would have known the photographer handed it in, or what was on the film.

I think someone has been pulling your leg.

And 168 words without a single comma or full stop? I'm impressed!

[flarkey]

I have a feeling the image in the Calvine photo is a Hunter, not a Harrier. Does anyone have records of movements at RAF Lossiemouth for 1 - 4 August 1990, particularly the Hunters of 208 Sqn / 237 OCU. ? I doubt that there'd be anything flying at 9pm on a Saturday night, as is claimed. So if its a hoax its possible that they took a photo of a plane in the preceding days.

[POL]

Fence out of focus, tree out of focus, aircraft in the background out of focus. UFO is magically in focus.

There are photos on here of aircraft 100m away on a runway that aren't in focus, taken by aviation photography enthusiasts, yet two "chefs" managed to get that perfectly sharp image?

Fair enough...

[jonnewell]

Please let's not waste any more time following this thread.
"IF" you have any 100% proof of Extra Terrestrial activity, then post it.
Otherwise don't waste my and other people's time.
Don't waste your time flaming me because I don't care...
Let's go back to the real world of actually seen and photographed aircraft

[NiceGuyEddie]

I was posting about this on reddit and my initial thought was a hunter. In this version of the photo it almost looks like an F-4 to me.

My first thought when I saw this photo was an F-4. Can anybody remember if they were still on QRA duties in 1990? Not sure if the Tornado had taken over by then?

[NorvilleRogers]

Please let's not waste any more time following this thread.
"IF" you have any 100% proof of Extra Terrestrial activity, then post it.
Otherwise don't waste my and other people's time.
Don't waste your time flaming me because I don't care...
Let's go back to the real world of actually seen and photographed aircraft

Is anybody forcing you to read it? Maybe ET has a gun to your head at this very moment...

Although General Chat area would be a better place for this.

[Hurn]

Please let's not waste any more time following this thread.
"IF" you have any 100% proof of Extra Terrestrial activity, then post it.
Otherwise don't waste my and other people's time.
Don't waste your time flaming me because I don't care...
Let's go back to the real world of actually seen and photographed aircraft

Is anybody forcing you to read it? Maybe ET has a gun to your head at this very moment...

Although General Chat area would be a better place for this.

Totally agree, it is a discussion forum after all. Don't like the thread, then jog on to the next one!

Btw, this was originally posted in general chat but was moved here shortly after.

[2e1var]

Please let's not waste any more time following this thread.
"IF" you have any 100% proof of Extra Terrestrial activity, then post it.
Otherwise don't waste my and other people's time.
Don't waste your time flaming me because I don't care...
Let's go back to the real world of actually seen and photographed aircraft

I've enjoyed reading it but I'll stop now. Are there any other threads you disapprove of and I can stop reading those too ?

Rich

[red leader]

Ive enjoyed the thread too. Remember the title UFO stands for unidentified flying object. That just means we don't know what it is. It does not mean it's necessarily alien. If it's u identified millitary it's still very interesting imho.

[Alternative 4]

Ive enjoyed the thread too. Remember the title UFO stands for unidentified flying object. That just means we don't know what it is. It does not mean it's necessarily alien. If it's u identified millitary it's still very interesting imho.

Exactly. There was a theory going around that it's a secret stealth blimp (don't ask me why) and that's why the picture was classified. It could be that, but until we identify it its a UFO.