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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by romeo bravo » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:33 pm

binbrook87 wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:17 am
And if they weren't content with Bruntingthorpe the same fleet management company plans the same fate for RAF Wyton 🙁
Don't know what you mean regarding Wyton. The airfield might become full of cars but they can't touch the Tech Area or the Air Ambulance area; both are fenced off.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by NAM Updater » Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:19 pm

They also have a toe in nearer to us at ex RAF Bottesford on the Leics, Lincs, Notts border!
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by binbrook87 » Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:26 pm

romeo bravo wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:33 pm
binbrook87 wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:17 am
And if they weren't content with Bruntingthorpe the same fleet management company plans the same fate for RAF Wyton 🙁
Don't know what you mean regarding Wyton. The airfield might become full of cars but they can't touch the Tech Area or the Air Ambulance area; both are fenced off.
I am presuming that all the hard surfaces.... runway, taxiway, apron will be filled with vehicles, and the limited private flying or any possibility of future flying activity will cease?

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by Doughnut » Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:45 pm

Think private flying at Wyton stopped some time ago, in any case the PPL's used a grass strip approx at right angles to the main runway.
There have been local rumours that the air ambulance was wanting to move to a site located somewhere within the old RAF Alconbury site.
The JARIC site includes the hangars and has a secure boundary that does not include the runway or hardstanding, although expect there is still a designated helicopter landing area.
Guessing the airfield will still be in MOD ownership and leased to C.Walton and this lease will now have been passed to Cox.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:50 pm

mushbuster wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:33 pm
plmc135 wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:10 pm
Afraid not. The runway total length is, according to AIS circular, 6473 ft with the displaced thresholds reducing it to 6289 ft. :whistle:
Such a runway length would render the airfield unuseable for operating B-47s in the 50s and 60s, a quick measure on Google earth suggests its the standard SAC runway length provided at all the B-47 operating locations in the UK which is close to 10,000 feet. FWIW Wiki suggests 3,000m/9843'
The post you quoted was referring to Kemble’s runway.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by red leader » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:33 am

So sad about Bruntingthorpe. This was a very unique and special place to visit. It will be sadly missed.
I really hope homes can be found for the AC as statics at least and that they don't get chopped up. Gonna miss the buccs and lightings. Let's hope taxi runs somewhere else will be possible in the future.
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by Vulcanone » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:39 pm

How do you know its all over? Just because everyone reads a post saying Cox has bought some of it......

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:47 pm

Vulcanone wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:39 pm
How do you know its all over? Just because everyone reads a post saying Cox has bought some of it......
Multiple groups being either asked to leave or move their aircraft against the threat of them being scrapped.

Cox has the lease on the entire airfrield site I believe.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by Vulcanone » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:57 pm

Not what I have been told by someone who owns aircraft on there. Anyway I shall await further news

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:44 pm

Vulcanone wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:57 pm
Not what I have been told by someone who owns aircraft on there. Anyway I shall await further news
Well, your contact is very lucky or in the LPG; every owner/group I’ve spoken to isn’t in that lucky position. Seeing as TBAG have been asked to leave, and almost all the large aircraft have been threatened with scrapping by late summer, I’d say it’s pretty serious.

I think the only aircraft probably not under threat are the smaller ones owned by the Walton family and the LPG.
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by Vulcanone » Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:58 pm

I know David and several others on the place, but like I say we shall see what happens.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:45 pm

Vulcanone wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:58 pm
I know David and several others on the place, but like I say we shall see what happens.
Yeah... Your optimism is admirable.

Somewhat misplaced perhaps. Those dealing with the fallout of the Cox deal might be feeling less enthusiastic.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by quid21 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:47 pm

Vulcanone wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:39 pm
How do you know its all over? Just because everyone reads a post saying Cox has bought some of it......
This line from the first post in this thread is the reason why it looks like Bruntingthorpe in it's current guise is over, it was copied and pasted direct from the Bruntingthorpe website:

"Please note that, following an acquisition of C.Walton Ltd by Cox Automotive, the Aviation business and Cold War Jets Museum at the Bruntingthorpe site are now closed and will not re-open."

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by Jammer » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:30 pm

Some odd things.
According to FB the owner of the vc10's has been given legal notice to remove the aircraft by end of July (surely an impossibly short deadline) very odd. Re posses or scrap?
Lots of people saying the Aug open day is going ahead (without the vc10's i presume see above)
TBAG have been given the same deadline to remove themselves from the site (unconfirmed)
Unconfirmed new dedicated area for the cwj jets, but which jets who knows, but given that cox seem desperate for the space i can't see any of the big jets surviving.
Seems that the aircraft owners on site really haven't been kept in the loop on this.
It's all very odd all the way through, but i am guessing cox want space for the new registrations coming out in i think August and it says on the Bruntingthorpe page that cox have no interest in aviation, or words to that effect.
Bruntingthorpe was a really unique event and i've gone to every open day since 2005, another nail in aviation heritage, going to miss it.
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:40 pm

Jammer wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:30 pm
Some odd things.
According to FB the owner of the vc10's has been given legal notice to remove the aircraft by end of July (surely an impossibly short deadline) very odd. Re posses or scrap? I believe the VC10 team - who don’t own the airframes - will be making a statement in the next week or two
Lots of people saying the Aug open day is going ahead (without the vc10's i presume see above)
TBAG have been given the same deadline to remove themselves from the site (unconfirmed) - confirmed and they’ve announced they have a new home - not disclosed yet
Unconfirmed new dedicated area for the cwj jets, but which jets who knows, but given that cox seem desperate for the space i can't see an of the big jets surviving.
Seems that the aircraft owners on site really haven't been kept in the loop on this.
It's all very odd all the way through, but i am guessing cox want space for the new registrations coming out in i think August and it says on the Bruntingthorpe page that cox have no interest in aviation, or words to that effect.
Bruntingthorpe was a really unique event and i've gone to every open day since 2005, another nail in aviation heritage, going to miss it.
Without confirming or denying anything else, this is very, very, similar to my understanding. Cox want space, not aeroplanes.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by Jammer » Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:00 pm

ColintheCaterpillar wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:40 pm
Jammer wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:30 pm
Some odd things.
According to FB the owner of the vc10's has been given legal notice to remove the aircraft by end of July (surely an impossibly short deadline) very odd. Re posses or scrap? I believe the VC10 team - who don’t own the airframes - will be making a statement in the next week or two
Lots of people saying the Aug open day is going ahead (without the vc10's i presume see above)
TBAG have been given the same deadline to remove themselves from the site (unconfirmed) - confirmed and they’ve announced they have a new home - not disclosed yet
Unconfirmed new dedicated area for the cwj jets, but which jets who knows, but given that cox seem desperate for the space i can't see an of the big jets surviving.
Seems that the aircraft owners on site really haven't been kept in the loop on this.
It's all very odd all the way through, but i am guessing cox want space for the new registrations coming out in i think August and it says on the Bruntingthorpe page that cox have no interest in aviation, or words to that effect.
Bruntingthorpe was a really unique event and i've gone to every open day since 2005, another nail in aviation heritage, going to miss it.
Without confirming or denying anything else, this is very, very, similar to my understanding. Cox want space, not aeroplanes.
One thing i forgot to mention, given the space allocated i can't see any of the jets running again, it's just to small.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by Vulcan74 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:11 pm

I wonder what will happen to the Victor K2?

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by Richard B » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:54 pm

Cool it down a little chaps. Topic tidied up a little.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:18 pm

Vulcan74 wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:11 pm
I wonder what will happen to the Victor K2?
I hope it will be ok. Hence it was very difficult to keep quiet a few months ago when people were looking at saving the shell at Marham.

My optimism for anything bigger is less so.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by roughcutter » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:54 pm

Sadly, my guess (if they'll ever be seen again), is that some of these airframes will probably end up becoming exhibits at a future cockpit fest :(
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