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Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by kurt.fairhurst » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:48 pm

Any idea what time on Friday that will be ?

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by scanman » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:50 pm

No sorry Kurt.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by Macc » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:33 pm

One Sky Reporter posted on Twitter they will be performing remaining displays with 8-aircraft. A fine tribute in my eyes.
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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by Hurn » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:22 pm

Two black Hawks departed Hurn today at around 15.10. I'm presuming they were the solo display Hawk and the spare, although I cannot confirm this.

Good to hear that the Reds are going to be training again shortly though.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by kurt.fairhurst » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:29 pm

When will they start the Training ?

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by scanman » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:32 pm

Robin that is yesterdays news...........it is a strobe

Edit - Sorry might sound blunt, trying to watch live coverage of Libya and keep an eye on the forum :)

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by Hurn » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:35 pm

kurt.fairhurst wrote:When will they start the Training ?
The BBC article says that the RAF have stated 30th August for training to resume with eight aircraft, although it's a bit self-conflicting as the opening of the same article says 'the MoD say they're unlikely to perform at airshows again this year'.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by kurt.fairhurst » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:55 pm

Oh ok ye they may not Preform at airshow again this year but the pilots need to stay current.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by kurt.fairhurst » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:07 pm

http://www.raf.mod.uk/reds/teamnews/ind ... BA2B62C50E" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by Hurn » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:07 pm

kurt.fairhurst wrote:Oh ok ye they may not Preform at airshow again this year but the pilots need to stay current.
But if they weren't going to do airshows why would they bother training for an eight ship routine again? Surely they'd just wait until October when the newbies join and then start all over from scratch for next season.

My own feeling is that if they're going to resume training next week, then they'll perform at shows again this September. Hope I'm right.

EDIT: And that confirms it! :clap:

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by 2e1var » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:59 pm

Macc wrote:One Sky Reporter posted on Twitter they will be performing remaining displays with 8-aircraft. A fine tribute in my eyes.
I agree, a fine tribute. I imagine very sad to watch though.
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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by Hurn » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:44 pm

Softbill Man wrote:believe the 8 ship practice is to keep them current enough to keep there eye in for next years flying.
Not shooting the messenger (honest) but this part from the statement on the Reds website....
Display flying by the Red Arrows team, in an eight ship formation, will recommence subject to a successful period of consolidation and approval to display.
....makes me think that there's a desire to fulfill at least some of he remaining display dates this season.

I suppose only time will tell.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by Hurn » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:57 pm

Yeah, no probs mate, like I say, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Thanks for posting what you're told though! :thumb:

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by kstater94 » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:52 am

EXTREMELY happy to hear that they have been given the go ahead to resume flying

I do have a question though...

With the speed with which they moved in returning the Hawks to flight (coupled with no checks needing required on the aircraft) would this lead one to believe that it is due to the accident investigation board's preliminary finding that there was nothing wrong with the aircraft when it crashed and that it was possibly due to outside factors such as a bird strike?

Certainly not trying to fire up the speculation bus, as an engineer at Cessna, I'm just extremely curious how all this works with releasing fleets back into the air.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by garyscott » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:43 am

:( See my post ......

viewtopic.php?f=287&t=39890&start=200#p254723

:( Seems to be a round of copying.....
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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by Dunk » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:48 am

Not sure if this has been asked yet, but does anyone know which aircraft put out the Mayday call? Was it Red 4?

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by garyscott » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:03 am

markben wrote:
garyscott wrote::( See my post ......

viewtopic.php?f=287&t=39890&start=200#p254723

:( Seems to be a round of copying.....
sorry mate .dont know how i missed your post .think i have seen this on aleast 5 internet groups .even so still a fitting tribute.
Quite agree! WHOEVER wrote it...its perfect!
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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by Hurn » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:07 am

Seems the flight back to Scampton is now cancelled until tomorrow due to bad weather conditions.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by Rich H » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:30 am

Dunk wrote:Not sure if this has been asked yet, but does anyone know which aircraft put out the Mayday call? Was it Red 4?
Dunk,

Someone somewhere posted / wrote a transcript of the radio messages between the Reds: that indicated it was Red 1.

There was nothing in what I read to say that Red 4 did or did not make a call.

Can't give a link as I can't remember where I saw it.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by MikeB » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:35 am

Dunk wrote:Not sure if this has been asked yet, but does anyone know which aircraft put out the Mayday call? Was it Red 4?
I don't know their procedure, but would Red 4 have been primarily on their A2A (but monitoring ATC) with Red 1 or Red 9 dealing with ATC?

So if Red 4 did give a mayday, with little time to react, it would have been transmitted on their A2A and then Red 1 or Red 9 passing on the mayday call to ATC?

That's my theory anyway!

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