Queen's Funeral visitors thread.

[Canberra TT.18]

In the article it says that Heathrow can't be used when private jets are used and (smaller) airfields around London should be used. But is this not the normal procedure? Heathrow is hardly used for government flights. Mostly Northolt Farnborough Stansted eg are used. Or am I wrong?

[POL]

You are correct.

[Professor_M]

In the article it says that Heathrow can't be used when private jets are used and (smaller) airfields around London should be used. But is this not the normal procedure? Heathrow is hardly used for government flights. Mostly Northolt Farnborough Stansted eg are used. Or am I wrong?

Can we add Gatwick onto the list of contenders for related movements?

Chilean President used LGW last year for his visit to the UK, whilst JASDF 777 visited during the G7 summit and the Korean 747 parked up during COP26.

[C24]

All aircraft with VIPs to land at RAF Brize Norton (which is secure) and discharge the passengers for welcoming committee.

Land transport in secure convoys to embassies and or hotels.

Empty aircraft to be dispersed to secure military airfields until required.

VIPs travelling on commercial flights to go to Stansted and land convoy as above.

now, as to the detailed planning…

[Sparts99]

The statement about the commercial flights has to be made to keep Greta and co from having kittens and the likes of extinction rebellion disrupting the event with protests. Can you really see Biden arriving on Norse into LGW and the getting the Gatwick express into London, ain’t going to happen, the same goes for most of the G20 at least, just cannot see them jumping on commercial flights.

I suspect its just logisitcs and security management. If there are to be that many official visitors each with their own aircraft and vehicles it'll be chaotic trying to get everyone to the Abbey on and in good time to keep to schedule, they don't have a lot of time to organise this after all, even given there will be a skeleton plan already in place. Securing and protecting a few luxury coaches through London with timed road closures etc will be far easier than a succession of cars coming from all over the place. Similarly flights into the country to a variuety of airports and then onward heli flights or vehicles to central London. No doubt the big players will have a bit more clout to get what they want.

[Deramore]

So South Africa can organise the largest ever state funeral but the UK apparently cannot is basically what we are saying.

Where did all the planning go ?

Really does make us look like a laughing stock.

[Andy_99]

So South Africa can organise the largest ever state funeral but the UK apparently cannot is basically what we are saying.

Where did all the planning go ?

Really does make us look like a laughing stock.

I'm sure that those that need to know already had much of the planning in hand & it'll be a smooth, seamless & dignified occasion.

Not sure where you got the idea that it will be anything different.

[Pauld339]

So South Africa can organise the largest ever state funeral but the UK apparently cannot is basically what we are saying.

Where did all the planning go ?

Really does make us look like a laughing stock.

Get a grip

[jules50]

Makes sense I suppose.Probably close the A40/M40 to allow smooth progress.

[STN RAMP RAT]

So South Africa can organise the largest ever state funeral but the UK apparently cannot is basically what we are saying.

Where did all the planning go ?

Really does make us look like a laughing stock.

Get a grip

Agreed, it’s a funeral not an airshow. It’s well organised and all they are doing is publishing the plans that have been years in the making.

[JohanBeck]

Just confirmed;
King and queen of The Netherlands and the king's mother will be at the funural.

[Springbok]

Out of interest these are the aircraft that arrived for Mandelas funeral.

Waterkloof AFB
Gripen 3908 SAAF
Gripen 3909 SAAF
Gripen 3911 SAAF
Gripen 3920 SAAF
Gripen 3923 SAAF
C-17 04-4137 RCH292 US Air Force From Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, New Jersey
C-17 01-0189 RCH513 US Air Force From Joint Base Charleston, South Carolina
C-17 09-9209 RCH516 US Air Force From Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington state
C-17 00-0179 RCH517 US Air Force From Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington, Washington state
BBJ TT-ABD Chad Government
A310 15001 Canada Air Force
A320 CS-TFY (Charter for Senegal)
B727 TU-VAO Ivory Coast Government
GV 5X-UGF Uganda Government
GIV 7T-VPC Algeria Government
GIV J-756 Pakistan
B732 Z-WPA Zimbabwe
B763 5Y-KQR Kenya
FA7X HB-JSL Benin
VC25 92-9000 Air Force 1
C32A 98-0001 US Air Force
B744 VT-EVB India
A343 16+02 Germany
F2000 F-RAFC French Air Force
FA7x F-RAFA French Air Force
777 TR-KPR Gabon
BBJ 5T-CLC Mauritania

Lanseria Airport
Challenger 604 N604GM
C-17 10-0213 RCH515 US Air Force From Joint Base Charleston, South Carolina
C-17 00-0175 RCH514 US Air Force From Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington, Washington state
C-17 06-6155 RCH424 US Air Force From Travis AFB, California
C-17 06-6158 RCH649 US Air Force From Travis AFB, California
C-17 08-8193 RCH518 US Air Force
UH-60N 163265 US Marines
UH-60N US Marines
C130H 94-7320 US Air Force Reserve Command
GIV XC-LMF Mexican Navy
FA7X OO-NAD
FA7X 5N-FGV Nigeria Air Force
GV VP-CVI SAP AG Systems
Falcon 900 TR-AFJ Afrijet
CL60 N898DL
DHC8 D2-EEB Angola
B732 5U-BAG Niger Goverment
GV 102005 Swedish Government
B752 TP-01 Mexican Goverment
C604 144617 Canada
C32A 99-0004 US Air Force
GV D-AUTO BMW



OR Tambo Airport
F9EX YV-2053 Venezuela Government
VC-2B 2590 Brazil Air Force
B733 TN-AJJ Congo
GV A4O-AE OMAN4 Oman Air Force
ERJ FAC1215 Colombian Air Force
BBJ A6-DFR Abu Dhabi Amiri flight
A343 4R-ADG Sri Lanka
A342 HZ-HMS2 Saudi Arabia
G650 VQ-BNZ Jordan Goverment
A333 CS-TMT Belgian Air Force
A319 A6-RRJ
B777 S7-AFO Bangladesh
A310 YR-LCB
B744 20-1101 Japan
A319 MM62243 Italian Air Force
A310 304 Spain

.

Unknown Airport
GV VP-BLW
CRJ2 OY-VGA
Glex P4-PIF
E190 A6-HHS
BBJ 3C-EGE Guinea Equatorial
FA50 ST-PSR Sudan Government
FA7X SX-JET
IL96 RA-96019 Russia
GV 9K-AJE Kuwait
A319 FAB2101 Brazil Government
FA7X XT-EBO
FA50 YV-462CP
Il96 Cu-T1250 IL96 Cuba,
F900 F-HKMO
FA7X XT-EBO Burkino Faso,
E135 A6-GCC
A342 5A-ONE Libya,
C17 02-1098
C17 08-8193
BBJ 5N-FGT Nigeria,
B737 5T-CLC Mauritania,
BBJ B-5266 China,
767 N767KS DRC,
MD87 VP-CNI Bill Clinton
C605 N605DA
F900 F-GKOM
VP-BED a A319
TS-IOO Tunis
E4B 74-0787 DOOMSDAY STUMP 86 then EDGE 25
Glex G-CEYL
767 9Y-LHR Caribbean
727 C5-GOG Gambia
F900 F-RAFP France
Glex OK1 Botswana


USAF Afterwards:
C-17 00-0175 RCH518 US Air Force
C-17 02-1098 RCH410 US Air Force
C-17 08-8193 RCH518 US Air Force
C-17 09-9209 RCH516 US Air Force
C-17 10-0213 RCH515 US Air Force
C-17 08-8193 RCH514 US Air Force
C-17 01-0189 RCH513 US Air Force
C-17 04-4137 RCH520 US Air Force
C-17 02-1098 RCH116 US Air Force
C-17 06-6155 RCH110 US Air Force
C-17 05-5146 RCH??? US Air Force

[Headance99]

Must confess i too suspect there would be a few raised eyebrows from the various Heads of Government if they feel they have to share a bus.
I would think the respective security agencies won't wear that.

[Captain Haddock]

You can't compare this with Mandelas funeral, as that took place in a Sports Stadium and not an Abbey which is hundreds of years old.

[STN RAMP RAT]

Must confess i too suspect there would be a few raised eyebrows from the various Heads of Government if they feel they have to share a bus.
I would think the respective security agencies won't wear that.

As indicated earlier in the thread, there is precedence for this at a D-day commemoration a few years ago, all the leaders were on a bus then. It’s a much more practical way to move a sizeable number of world leaders around London than individual convoys.

[Springbok]

You can't compare this with Mandelas funeral, as that took place in a Sports Stadium and not an Abbey which is hundreds of years old.

The aircraft didn’t land in the sports stadium, For Mandelas funeral there were only 3 airports in the Johannesburg area which could take any of the large jets and bizjets that africed..

[algr61]

This is a thread about the Queen's Funeral visitors. It will be on 200 pages by the time we get there !! Can we not just have confirmed arrivals as per the very useful message ? Most since have been pointless

[algr61]

First message I meant

[Mikefaro]

This is a thread about the Queen's Funeral visitors. It will be on 200 pages by the time we get there !! Can we not just have confirmed arrivals as per the very useful message ? Most since have been pointless

Yes, the ramblings of folk with nothing else to do are annoying. When you have some concrete movement news you can use your keyboard. Until then DESIST.

[starfighter]

This is a thread about the Queen's Funeral visitors. It will be on 200 pages by the time we get there !! Can we not just have confirmed arrivals as per the very useful message ? Most since have been pointless

Yes, the ramblings of folk with nothing else to do are annoying. When you have some concrete movement news you can use your keyboard. Until then DESIST.

At last a post that makes logical sense