RAF F-35 crashes in Med

[Contrail1958]

We've cut our numbers down to minimum levels or less. These machine's
are way too expensive to have. Squadron's I worked on were 12-14.
A big elephant carrier that is really now a helicopter platform ???

[2e1var]

Let them have it . That will set their mil development back 10 years especially if they try and replicate the joke B variant.

Yawn, you forgot to mention the Harrier.

[POL]

A big elephant carrier that is really now a helicopter platform ???

That helicopter platform that is literally carrying fixed wing aircraft? You know, like the one that crashed?

[Agent K]

We've cut our numbers down to minimum levels or less. These machine's
are way too expensive to have. Squadron's I worked on were 12-14.
A big elephant carrier that is really now a helicopter platform ???

it's not the numbers of aircraft in a squadron, that's irrelevant, it's the aircraft that can be used/deployed surely?

A helicoter platform? carrying jets of which one crashed? not sure of your point here?

[Sparts99]

Actually if I remember correctly the Yak-38 may well have provided some things towards the design of the lift system on the F-35B.....

I suggest you read John Farley's book 'A View From The Hover', particularly the parts about the VAAC Harrier, that's where a lot of the F-35 flight systems concepts originated and were tested.

[Alf]

A big elephant carrier that is really now a helicopter platform ???

That helicopter platform that is literally carrying fixed wing aircraft? You know, like the one that crashed?

Cant see any big elephants in the BBC photos, are they kept below deck?

[Stroudy]

Shall we keep it Fighter Control-like, and not Facebook-like. Thanks.

[Tally-ho]

Some of the comments here on this topic are really child-like.

If you cannot contribute intelligently, or with some modicum of knowledge on the subject, please stay away.

[Supra]

A little light humour & alternative opinion doesn't necessarily detract from some topics which could otherwise portray as being 'as serious as a heart-attack'? No loss-of-life, personal insults or toilet-talk here so no requirement to moderate, I believe.
Personal choice really, don't like it.....Don't read it!
Anyway, it's a 'White Elephant' not the grey one Contrail 1958 referred to!

[mushbuster]

For the number crunchers It will be one of ZM147/013, ZM148/014, ZM150/016, ZM151/017, ZM152/018, ZM153/019, ZM154/020 or ZM155/021

[nellis6]

Let them have it . That will set their mil development back 10 years especially if they try and replicate the joke B variant.

Do you make that statement as an F-35B pilot? Or an armchair pilot? Funny thing is my friend who’s an F-35B squadron commander really rates the aircraft as a step change to what he flew before, and I tend to believe him.

It ignore it, there's always an expert out there who actually isn't

[tim_raper]

BBC news has been reporting that the crash happened shortly after take off from QE!

.. shortly before landing would have been a more accurate scoop

[cat1]

aaaaand here's another chance for those of more experience to yell at us about how we know nothing about aircraft or the military

so much for friendly aviation forum

maybe just aviation forum?
please keep this the brilliant forum it is not a shouting competition!!!!

[Finty]

Shall we keep it Fighter Control-like, and not Facebook-like. Thanks.

I was thinking that too. The quality of the discussion on the FC Facebook group was poor and I was expecting better here and overall it is but there is some inane drivel here too. Some people go on as if fully British-built aircraft never got into accidents as well.

[Finty]

Some of the comments here on this topic are really child-like.

If you cannot contribute intelligently, or with some modicum of knowledge on the subject, please stay away.

For the best really when it comes to accidents. Sure, people think their opinions matter but when they’re just speculating about something they don’t know, it doesn’t make them look good.

aaaaand here's another chance for those of more experience to yell at us about how we know nothing about aircraft or the military

so much for friendly aviation forum

maybe just aviation forum?
please keep this the brilliant forum it is not a shouting competition!!!!

Nothing wrong with knowing less than others, I’m no expert and don’t have military experience but you should realise that when people talk sh*t about something they know not much about, they are putting themselves out there for criticism by those who do.

[cat1]

Some of the comments here on this topic are really child-like.

If you cannot contribute intelligently, or with some modicum of knowledge on the subject, please stay away.

memberships immediately fall to Mariana trench levels

[cat1]

Some of the comments here on this topic are really child-like.

If you cannot contribute intelligently, or with some modicum of knowledge on the subject, please stay away.

For the best really when it comes to accidents. Sure, people think their opinions matter but when they’re just speculating about something they don’t know, it doesn’t make them look good.

aaaaand here's another chance for those of more experience to yell at us about how we know nothing about aircraft or the military

so much for friendly aviation forum

maybe just aviation forum?
please keep this the brilliant forum it is not a shouting competition!!!!

Nothing wrong with knowing less than others, I’m no expert and don’t have military experience but you should realise that when people talk sh*t about something they know not much about, they are putting themselves out there for criticism by those who do.

Fair enough.

[Vulcanone]

Yep I know the VAAC Harrier was involved in the Testing and trials of concepts but was forgetting the Yak-141...

Meanwhile thankfully the pilot is safe and that is all that matters, the lost jet will most likely be replaced with a later Block jet.

[CHINOOKER]

BBC news has been reporting that the crash happened shortly after take off from QE!

.. shortly before landing would have been a more accurate scoop

There is the possibility that there was a problem on take off and the pilot immediately turned back for an emergency landing, but never made it!…..in that case aren’t both scenarios accurate??