Did you know that registration to Fighter Control is completely free and brings you lots of added features? Find out more....

New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

A forum for discussing all things related to MILITARY AVIATION including Military Aviation news. No off-topic discussions here please.
baz1
Posts: 6475
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:34 am
Location: lincoln between scampton and waddington

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by baz1 » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:29 pm

tm74sqn wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:10 pm
Like the new British AAC Apache helicopters, perhaps some of the existing electronic equipment will be reused - so maybe the large rotating dome from Sentry AEW1s will replace the boring radar head on the E-3s!!!! Incidentally there is a rumour that the Rivet Joints of 51 Sqn will move from RAF Waddington to RAF Mildenhall - however, have not seen that confirmed yet.
when the E-3s have gone A Rotating Randome head will be mounted on a pole with the inscription reading former base of the E-3!!
Comfortably Numb

User avatar
22A
Posts: 950
Joined: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:47 am
Location: Peterborough

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by 22A » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:46 pm

ColintheCaterpillar wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:44 am
Yeah, sadly that argument expired about 40 years ago when they could probably quite happily wipe out every base in a matter of minutes! :D
That's why we have Harriers which will deploy to remote locations at the first sign of trouble. Oh, hang on...

ColintheCaterpillar

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:56 pm

22A wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:46 pm
ColintheCaterpillar wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:44 am
Yeah, sadly that argument expired about 40 years ago when they could probably quite happily wipe out every base in a matter of minutes! :D
That's why we have Harriers which will deploy to remote locations at the first sign of trouble. Oh, hang on...
Not quite getting your point.

After all, we can “trail” fast jets pretty much anywhere in the world in about 1/4 time it would take to go by ship. Unless of course the whole world suddenly doesn’t like us. Which is unlikely.

We’re now in the 21st century.

ColintheCaterpillar

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:57 pm

Thunder wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:20 pm
‘Eggs all in one basket’, may have been true during WWII, but during the Cold War a couple of ICBM’s would put an end to everything anywhere within a couple of minutes.
I think the Soviets would had every base in Lincolnshire alone wiped out in about 2 minutes. :D

User avatar
Thunder
Posts: 5294
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:24 pm

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by Thunder » Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:32 pm

Exactly, every base, depot, barracks, dock and rail yard was targeted, but at least the Harriers would’ve been safe🤫

freebirduk
Posts: 290
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:44 pm

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by freebirduk » Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:43 pm

ColintheCaterpillar wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:57 pm
Thunder wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:20 pm
‘Eggs all in one basket’, may have been true during WWII, but during the Cold War a couple of ICBM’s would put an end to everything anywhere within a couple of minutes.
I think the Soviets would had every base in Lincolnshire alone wiped out in about 2 minutes. :D
Having watched all those holocaust survivor films in the 70's it gave my teenage self great comfort that, living near Lincoln I'd have been fried to a crisp before having time to boil an egg. Mind you, standing in the playground and hearing the roar of a Vulcan practice mass dispersal used to scare the bejesus out of me. Fortunately we're all still here and trucking.

ColintheCaterpillar

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:29 pm

Thunder wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:32 pm
Exactly, every base, depot, barracks, dock and rail yard was targeted, but at least the Harriers would’ve been safe🤫
The Harrier deterrent - sub launched Harriers. :D

PHILC

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by PHILC » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:06 am

When Scotland leaves the Union there going to have one helluva of an Airforce!

baz1
Posts: 6475
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:34 am
Location: lincoln between scampton and waddington

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by baz1 » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:13 am

PHILC wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:06 am
When Scotland leaves the Union there going to have one helluva of an Airforce!
Really??
Comfortably Numb

User avatar
daggerfan
Posts: 509
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:53 pm
Location: Lossiemouth

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by daggerfan » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:44 am

PHILC wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:06 am
When Scotland leaves the Union there going to have one helluva of an Airforce!
Oh yes! A couple of Super Tucanos for air defence and an An-2 for transport!

baz1
Posts: 6475
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:34 am
Location: lincoln between scampton and waddington

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by baz1 » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:49 am

daggerfan wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:44 am
PHILC wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:06 am
When Scotland leaves the Union there going to have one helluva of an Airforce!
Oh yes! A couple of Super Tucanos for air defence and an An-2 for transport!
that's more like it and more Aircraft south of the border, but were do we put them???
Comfortably Numb

freebirduk
Posts: 290
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:44 pm

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by freebirduk » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:55 am

Current Government policy suggests that we simply outsource the Air Force to the USAF. No competitive procurement process necessary as it’s a national security matter.

User avatar
toom317
Posts: 2061
Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:31 pm

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by toom317 » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:13 am

baz1 wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:49 am

that's more like it and more Aircraft south of the border, but were do we put them???
I could suggest a location, but it might be a tad painful. :P
No one gets out of life alive.



Equipment: Camera, Lens, Goretex Y fronts

baz1
Posts: 6475
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:34 am
Location: lincoln between scampton and waddington

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by baz1 » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:16 am

toom317 wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:13 am
baz1 wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:49 am

that's more like it and more Aircraft south of the border, but were do we put them???
I could suggest a location, but it might be a tad painful. :P
well you best not try it if its going to be too painfull for you :lol:
Comfortably Numb

PHILC

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by PHILC » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:30 am

baz1 wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:13 am
PHILC wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:06 am
When Scotland leaves the Union there going to have one helluva of an Airforce!
Really??
My comment was rather tongue in cheek!

User avatar
Thunder
Posts: 5294
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:24 pm

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by Thunder » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:04 pm

An-2 painted out in the colours of the Saltire and renamed “Sturgeon Hot Air One”. Can just see it turning up at Brussels with Nic onboard, ready to plead with a much larger and suffocating Union on our terms. We could always export some of our Drug related deaths for favourable returns, as we have that area pretty much sewn up☹️

Now back on topic and the return home of 8 Sqn :clap:

the concerned
Posts: 373
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:10 am

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by the concerned » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:55 pm

With the wedgetails going Lossiemouth and reds going waddington why not also base the hawks from Leeming their and shut Leeming down.

ColintheCaterpillar

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:06 pm

the concerned wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:55 pm
With the wedgetails going Lossiemouth and reds going waddington why not also base the hawks from Leeming their and shut Leeming down.
Geography - it’s perfectly placed for 100 Sqn’s training needs.

Airfield use - they aren’t the only users. Two Squadrons of Tutors and used for other aircraft (particularly SH force) as gateway to the northern training ranges.

Waddington real estate - no space for them.

ColintheCaterpillar

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:09 pm

freebirduk wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:55 am
Current Government policy suggests that we simply outsource the Air Force to the USAF. No competitive procurement process necessary as it’s a national security matter.
In Wedgetail’s case there was a strong argument that Boeing were the only people who could deliver a combat proven, airframe integrated product into which RAF aircrew could be Seedcorned in a sensible timescale.

And if anyone mentions the MRA4 or AEW3. :Oops:

Vulcan74
Posts: 622
Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:26 am

Re: New Wedgetail surveillance fleet to be based at RAF Lossiemouth

Post by Vulcan74 » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:38 pm

And if anyone mentions the MRA4 or AEW3. :Oops:


What do you mean !!!

Post Reply

Return to “The Fighter Control Mess”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 55 guests