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US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Magpie » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:30 am

davedubya wrote:CONFIRMED: I was joking and refuse to use smilies.
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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Lossie » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:32 am

For those interested in the F-22, the current issue of Aviation News magazine has a major article on the Raptor covering the latest developments with the aircraft.
Check out http://www.aviation-news.co.uk/
To download the digital version of the magazine go to pocketmags.com and search for ‘Aviation News’.
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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Lossie » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:41 pm

Posted by Bollo in Ex Section, connected?

G0247/15 - AIRSPACE RESERVATION:
TR: MIMKU MOGLO ETARI 5500N 02000W - 5400N 03000W
THE FOLLOWING SEPARATION WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN OCEANIC AIRSPACE:
MNPS 60NM, NON-MNPS 120NM. FL240 - FL260, 27 AUG 11:12 2015 UNTIL 27 AUG 14:54
2015. CREATED: 26 AUG 09:23 2015

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Gary » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:46 pm

Lossie

Nope, that's going Stateside

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Tronk 11 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:55 pm

Aren't the US pumping loads of money into a Polish TDY base. Isn't that where all the F-16's head off to. They certainly get more for their $ out there.

It would be nice to see some F-22's again, I remember watching them dogfighting over my house last time they were based at Lakenheath, I worry for any jet that gets close enough to dogfight with them. They pull some interesting manoeuvre's, as we witnessed at RIAT a few years ago, I think close in a Harrier would be a match, but no Eurofighter/Typhoon. That's another story.

Spanish, Italian, German or RAF Typhoons, who would they want to train with and where would they be based at? Germany would be central to all 4 countries, but we'll see, fingers crossed.

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Lossie » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:29 pm

Gary, you're quite right on looking again it's westbound.

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Pune » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:28 pm

davedubya wrote:CONFIRMED: I was joking and refuse to use smilies.
:thumb:
If you can keep your head whilst all around are losing theirs, you have probably completely misread the situation!!

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by the concerned » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:37 pm

As much as I would love it to be the UK. A good opportunity for the f-22 would be either the dact exercises in spain or Frisian flag.

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Lossie » Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:40 pm

Posted by Bollo in Ex section.
ALTRV E/B 28/8/15 F 22's ??

Postby BOLLO » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:57 pm
Think this is what we have been waiting for,looks about right for the arrival time in to ......Spang
G0250/15 - AIRSPACE RESERVATION:
TR:5500N 03000W - 5600N 02000W PIKIL SOVED MIMKU
THE FOLLOWING SEPARATION WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN OCEANIC AIRSPACE:
MNPS 60NM, NON-MNPS 120NM. FL250 - FL270, 28 AUG 13:07 2015 UNTIL 28 AUG 16:33
2015. CREATED: 27 AUG 12:49 2015

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Tronk 11 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:03 pm

Bye bye Lakenheath drop in. Not shocked by that one, the Spang F-16's didn't stop at Lakenheath a few weeks ago when they came back from the US, I'd guess its only about 45 minutes for the flight to miss Lakenheath. Shame. Fingers crossed they head West some time. We may get a chance to hear them routing through down the East coast over Marham.

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by smeagher » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:08 am

Lossie wrote:Posted by Bollo in Ex section.
ALTRV E/B 28/8/15 F 22's ??

Postby BOLLO » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:57 pm
Think this is what we have been waiting for,looks about right for the arrival time in to ......Spang
G0250/15 - AIRSPACE RESERVATION:
TR:5500N 03000W - 5600N 02000W PIKIL SOVED MIMKU
THE FOLLOWING SEPARATION WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN OCEANIC AIRSPACE:
MNPS 60NM, NON-MNPS 120NM. FL250 - FL270, 28 AUG 13:07 2015 UNTIL 28 AUG 16:33
2015. CREATED: 27 AUG 12:49 2015

KC10 callsign CLEAN61 is due to drag 6 F22's (TABOR11-16) today. The Raptor's are expected to depart from Tyndall at about 2AM local.

The tanker will end up at Mildenhall, and the fighter's at Spangdalem. The F22's are expected to route OTT Leuchars enroute.

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Malcolm » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:15 am

Game on?
08:10Z [AE0366] KC135R 62-23575 "CLEAN62" FL260 showing on PP over FL/GA somewhere

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by GhostFlight91 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:40 am

smeagher wrote:
Lossie wrote:Posted by Bollo in Ex section.
ALTRV E/B 28/8/15 F 22's ??

Postby BOLLO » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:57 pm
Think this is what we have been waiting for,looks about right for the arrival time in to ......Spang
G0250/15 - AIRSPACE RESERVATION:
TR:5500N 03000W - 5600N 02000W PIKIL SOVED MIMKU
THE FOLLOWING SEPARATION WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN OCEANIC AIRSPACE:
MNPS 60NM, NON-MNPS 120NM. FL250 - FL270, 28 AUG 13:07 2015 UNTIL 28 AUG 16:33
2015. CREATED: 27 AUG 12:49 2015

KC10 callsign CLEAN61 is due to drag 6 F22's (TABOR11-16) today. The Raptor's are expected to depart from Tyndall at about 2AM local.

The tanker will end up at Mildenhall, and the fighter's at Spangdalem. The F22's are expected to route OTT Leuchars enroute.
Fantastic thanks mate

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by KINROTATE » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:51 am

Loads of spare concrete in Spang these days.

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Keflavik69 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:53 pm

4 F-22A's landed at Spangdahlem around 19.00L.
Aircraft are: 05-086/TY, 05-089/TY, 05-097/TY and 05-097/TY.

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Keflavik69 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:53 pm

Sorry, a typo.
Last a/c is 05-098/TY

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Lightningboy2000 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:07 am

TankBuster wrote:Woodbridge would be a nice secluded base to house F-22's, but it would need an awful amount of work done to the place to bring it up to modern airfield standards. Anything is possible, but in this day and age of cutbacks I think it is highly unlikely.

If they do come to the UK then I think LN is the only place they'd go to.

TankBuster
Only a nice theoretical, but how much and how long would it take to get somewhere like Woodbridge active for heavy & fast stuff?
Just a thought, not that we really want to go back to war with Russia and have the remaining bases in East Anglia as prime targets again.

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Thunder » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:45 am

To get it to an austere operating condition ie: tented camp and deployable hangarage/radar/fuel storage and so on..... probably about 2 months from which you could operate the likes of AV-8/A-10/C17/ C130 and rotory craft

To get back to a fully operational airfield like it was before about 4 years and shed loads of cash

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by TankBuster » Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:36 am

Thunder wrote:To get it to an austere operating condition ie: tented camp and deployable hangarage/radar/fuel storage and so on..... probably about 2 months from which you could operate the likes of AV-8/A-10/C17/ C130 and rotory craft

To get back to a fully operational airfield like it was before about 4 years and shed loads of cash
Although Woodbridge is still an MOD facility in use by the Army you would think it to be in a reasonable state. The domestic side of the base, and much of the operational buildings have been re-occupied by the Army, some old USAF buildings were demolished to make way for new ones, so yes that part of the base is very much up to modern standards.

However, the actual airfield, runway, taxiways, HAS area, SOS hangars and general airfield infrastructure has been pretty much left in the hands of nature and the elements. The runway is now lined either side by trees and bushes which have had 22 years growth behind them, so are now quite overgrown. The underground services such as the electrical cables for the airfield lights and signs must be quite deteriorated as too must be the fuel and water and drainage pipelines.
The runway & taxiways are frequently used for car track days, so they are in use to that effect, and some of the HAS and QRA barns have been used to store Army equipment.

I agree that it could become activated again as a makeshift airfield in a short space of time, but a restoration to a permanent operational airfield would take years... And a big pile of cash!

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Re: US to Deploy F-22s to Europe

Post by Supra » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:17 am

davedubya wrote:CONFIRMED: I was joking and refuse to use smilies.
No point having an in-depth discussion on this.....it was a JOKE, LOL, ;) :whistle: :D :lol:
It's not just the Media that write outrageous stuff to titillate the 'Massif'. Only people who are serious as a heart-attack could ever consider the OP's post as truthful??

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