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Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by reaper493 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:42 pm

A 32sqd A109 has visited the Reds today - see what, if anything comes out of that over the next few days...

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by jetranger2015 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:55 pm

reaper493 wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:42 pm
A 32sqd A109 has visited the Reds today - see what, if anything comes out of that over the next few days...
And the relevance of this is what?
For us less knowledgeable please elaborate.

TIA.

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by reaper493 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:20 pm

32sqd ferry around top brass - this A109 went straight to the Reds area, rather than the normal parking spot, suggesting it was top brass visiting the Reds.

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by Strike01 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:38 pm

Xingu’s have been parking there also. So think you could be wrong

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by sgtangel » Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:32 pm

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north- ... 962127.amp
Explains one of the reason why the boss was visiting

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by C24 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:04 pm

🇺🇦 🌻 👻

At about 1355 today ABSB screenshot shown aircraft performing loops in the vicinity of Scampton.

For what it’s worth
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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by reaper493 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:45 pm

Strike01 wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:38 pm
Xingu’s have been parking there also. So think you could be wrong
Xingus take French Air Crew to use the Sentry SIM, which is why they park on bays 1-9.

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by reaper493 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:51 pm

sgtangel wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:32 pm
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north- ... 962127.amp
Explains one of the reason why the boss was visiting
Believe this was last Thursday when the base was shut - an Ascot callsign in a 32sqd A109 visited that day.

Mike

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by reaper493 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:15 pm

And here's the reason for yesterdays visit by the 32sqd A109.

https://www.raf.mod.uk/display-teams/re ... a84x0pTSV0

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by Bergerac » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:43 pm

succeeds Wg Cdr David Montenegro, who completed his scheduled two-and-a-half year posting. :whistle: :whistle:

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by reaper493 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:15 pm

Yea.... I did chuckle when I saw that!

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by binbrook32 » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:51 am

Yes, makes you wonder. Looking at his CV, he has flown the Hawk before - presumably with 100 Squadron, did a year as Red 10 as commentator, but doesn't say he's actually done a tour in the formation.

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by Bergerac » Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:09 am

Looking at the Reds website, I cannot see any hope of change. They appear to be unable to admit they have even had a problem, despite the numerous headlines.

Pretty embarrassing really.

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by slogen51 » Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:42 pm

Different commander learn from the past, put it behind you and press on

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by Bergerac » Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:23 pm

slogen51 wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:42 pm
Different commander learn from the past, put it behind you and press on
You can't move on from something you don't acknowledge happened.

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by Nighthawke » Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:51 pm

Yes you can - you just don't put it on full show to the world. Give the new boss a chance to warm his seat first and see what happens.

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by C24 » Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:57 pm

🇺🇦 🌻 🇺🇦

Let us all hope that he and the rest of the RAF do learn from past poor practices.

The book:

A noble anger: the manslaughter of Corporal…

By David Hill. Illustrates and highlights many things/procedures that could do with addressing.

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by Bergerac » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:12 pm

Don't forget RED 5: An investigation into the death of Flight Lieutenant Sean Cunningham also by David Hill.

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by POL » Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:44 pm

Did my post hit a nerve?

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Re: Red Arrows in Turmoil ?

Post by C24 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:14 am

POL
not with me.
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