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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by thevulcan » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:51 pm

One cockpit section and two runners are moving to Kemble.
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by thevulcan » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:23 pm

ZD241 is to be moved ideally to kemble for a price of £480,000 this price includes 5 years rent and will include the aircraft to continue to be run in a taxiable state.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/vc10-rescue- ... f9zDRwtFw0

The money will have to be raised in 60 days before the project is dropped. Let's dig deep if the nation can get a Vulcan flying they can get a VC-10 moved.
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by Alf » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:20 pm

A JP left Bruntingthorpe today by road and is expected at Sleap Airfield in Shropshire later this afternoon. It will be restored to running condition by a group of volunteers

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by burleysway » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:48 am

STATEMENT RE AVIATION ACTIVITIES AT BRUNTINGTHORPE - Updated 24.07.2020.

We confirm that the Aviation activities carried on at Bruntingthorpe were not acquired by Cox Automotive when they acquired the automotive vehicle services business of C Walton Ltd in March of this year. The Aviation activities, including responsibility for the historic aircraft, remain under the control of a Company owned by the former Directors of C Walton Ltd.
There are no plans to scrap any of the historic British aircraft currently onsite. We have reached agreement with a number of organisations to rehome several of the historic aircraft and are actively pursuing the possibility of establishing an aviation museum upon land adjacent to the Airfield at Bruntingthorpe, but there are a number of practical implications which will determine whether this will ultimately be viable.
As and when there is any further information we shall make further announcements, but in the meantime we confirm that whilst we are working with Cox Automotive upon the possibility of hosting aircraft adjacent to the main entrance gate house, they are not involved in the day to day aspects of managing the Aviation activities and attempting to safeguard the historic British aircraft.

https://www.bruntingthorpe.com/aviation

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by Vulcanone » Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:14 am

Some sort of good news I suppose.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by thevulcan » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:40 pm

The VC-10 project is on BBC news.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-53528017
Certainly needed a national coverage in order to raise the £438,000
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ZD241_VC10 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:29 pm

thevulcan wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:40 pm
The VC-10 project is on BBC news.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-53528017
Certainly needed a national coverage in order to raise the £438,000
The project certainly does.

The BBC News actually offered to come and film a longer piece at Bruntingthorpe but sadly were not given permission to be on site.

Yes, you read that right.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by tornado17 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:32 pm

thevulcan wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:23 pm
ZD241 is to be moved ideally to kemble for a price of £480,000 this price includes 5 years rent and will include the aircraft to continue to be run in a taxiable state.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/vc10-rescue- ... f9zDRwtFw0

The money will have to be raised in 60 days before the project is dropped. Let's dig deep if the nation can get a Vulcan flying they can get a VC-10 moved.
As my donation was automatically refunded yesterday, am I correct in assuming the target was too big and the aircraft is to be scrapped or is there a better outcome? :S

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by thevulcan » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:33 pm

I am not member of the group tornado17 so it would be best to contact them.
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by tornado17 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:43 pm

Many thanks, here’s hoping ZD241_VC10 will provide an answer when he next logs in.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by POL » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:44 pm

A post on UKAR states that due to the lack of funds raised all monies are being donated and it's likely the aircraft owners will end up in court due to contractual issues regarding it still being at Bruntingthorpe.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ZD241_VC10 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:54 am

tornado17 wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:43 pm
Many thanks, here’s hoping ZD241_VC10 will provide an answer when he next logs in.
Yep, that’s correct. It was a frustrating decision for the Rescue and Relocation Team, but not a difficult one.

They said from the start it would be a tall order and obviously there isn’t that level of public support needed. Unfortunately COVID and the lack of notice to vacate the site entirely meant other coordinated fundraising efforts and avenues were impossible to explore or exploit.

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Post by ZD241_VC10 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:56 am

EGVP wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:44 pm
A post on UKAR states that due to the lack of funds raised all monies are being donated and it's likely the aircraft owners will end up in court due to contractual issues regarding it still being at Bruntingthorpe.
It is not correct to say it is likely. It is a possibility, but the owner does decommission, recycle and scrap aircraft for a living.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by tornado17 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:00 pm

ZD241_VC10 wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:54 am
[quote=tornado17 post_id=<a href="tel:1214985">1214985</a> time=<a href="tel:1597949002">1597949002</a> user_id=897]
Many thanks, here’s hoping ZD241_VC10 will provide an answer when he next logs in.
Yep, that’s correct. It was a frustrating decision for the Rescue and Relocation Team, but not a difficult one.

They said from the start it would be a tall order and obviously there isn’t that level of public support needed. Unfortunately COVID and the lack of notice to vacate the site entirely meant other coordinated fundraising efforts and avenues were impossible to explore or exploit.
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ZD241_VC10 wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:56 am
[quote=EGVP post_id=<a href="tel:1214987">1214987</a> time=<a href="tel:1597949042">1597949042</a> user_id=95]
A post on UKAR states that due to the lack of funds raised all monies are being donated and it's likely the aircraft owners will end up in court due to contractual issues regarding it still being at Bruntingthorpe.
It is not correct to say it is likely. It is a possibility, but the owner does decommission, recycle and scrap aircraft for a living.
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Thanks for the replies and it saddens me that we will be losing a British icon.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by GOOSE » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:50 am

Wondering if there's any updates or a chance of a reprieve any where in this sad business?
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:32 pm

GOOSE wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:50 am
Wondering if there's any updates or a chance of a reprieve any where in this sad business?
No news may be good news and I’m sure the teams are working hard behind the scenes engaging with the relevant stakeholders.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by burleysway » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:40 pm

Some positive news.

Last Saturday most of the aircraft that are being retained were moved onto the new site. The plan is to enable visitor access again sometime next year. I’ve seen some photos and it looks very encouraging. 👍

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by roughcutter » Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:06 am

Saw those photos myself, all the remaining smaller airframes are congregated in a clearing at the side of the QRA sheds, and the larger aircraft are down in a clearing at the other end of the airfield? Curtains for the Guppy sadly and looks like it's the end of the fast taxi runs, although I dare say they will continue with det runs to keep the aircraft alive? The bottle's half full I guess :)
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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:50 pm

roughcutter wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:06 am
Saw those photos myself, all the remaining smaller airframes are congregated in a clearing at the side of the QRA sheds, and the larger aircraft are down in a clearing at the other end of the airfield? Curtains for the Guppy sadly and looks like it's the end of the fast taxi runs, although I dare say they will continue with det runs to keep the aircraft alive? The bottle's half full I guess :)
Unfortunately for the Guppy it’s been cheating the grim reaper for years. Although the team looking after it couldn’t have done a better job, it presented it own limitations - anyone who’s been in it could see the daylight coming it. It was very susceptible to weather-cocking too. It suffered fairly considerable damage being blown into a tug a couple of years back.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe news

Post by roughcutter » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:57 pm

ColintheCaterpillar wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:50 pm
roughcutter wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:06 am
Saw those photos myself, all the remaining smaller airframes are congregated in a clearing at the side of the QRA sheds, and the larger aircraft are down in a clearing at the other end of the airfield? Curtains for the Guppy sadly and looks like it's the end of the fast taxi runs, although I dare say they will continue with det runs to keep the aircraft alive? The bottle's half full I guess :)
Unfortunately for the Guppy it’s been cheating the grim reaper for years. Although the team looking after it couldn’t have done a better job, it presented it own limitations - anyone who’s been in it could see the daylight coming it. It was very susceptible to weather-cocking too. It suffered fairly considerable damage being blown into a tug a couple of years back.
I've been inside the Guppy a couple of times myself, so could well concur with you there. It's shame the Guppy has to go, but I guess it is what it is, there's no getting around it. Would be good if the cockpit could be saved, that would make for an interesting relic. I remember a few years ago at one of the CWJ days a discussion I had with someone there about the Guppy. Apparently there was a rumour of possible acquisition of replacement Allisons from the (then) stored Hercules's, with a view to taxiing the Guppy. Wishful thinking I reckon, but would have been good to see all the same. What might have been, heyho. :)
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