Why are Typhoons launched on Bear QRAs?

[paddyboy]

As our friends from Scotia would say, 'Come tae grips'

These flights are no threat whatsoever

Just VP flexing his biceps, nothing more

Chill out, peeps

Paddyboy

[Mike]

A lad I work with suggested we should send the Reds up to trail some smoke around them

I would like to see that pic

Yes, what a great idea.

[Skip]

A lad I work with suggested we should send the Reds up to trail some smoke around them

I would like to see that pic

Yes, what a great idea.

they could make a big loveheart in front of them

[airfixpilot]

Just to say, a saying from the Cold war: Beware the Smiling Bear.

[C24]

Isn't one of the reasons for launching an intercept that the Bears are not indicating their position to civil traffic and our aircraft pinpoint their position?
The point about the Russians checking how many a/c we have is not realistic. There must be several 'Boris &/or Ivans" scanning FC. To say nothing of the other world airforces doing the same.
The Soviets, now known as Russians are employing "maskirovka", sending Bears on frequent and regular sorties to establish a pattern, then slipping the real attack from a different direction, employing dissimilar assets.

On a different topic but still military images, 'Czech' out the reports on Forces TV this last week. They showed Russian film of Typhoons taken from a Bear. Nice pics of the twin props of the Bear.

That's my two pennyworth.

[Morseman]

OK page_verify, I see your point, but, if a radar lock or sonar ping is an act of war how do we find the Bears in the first place. Someone has to lock on to follow them surely ?

[EGDGZTCW]

Hi, I'm new, and quite green so apologies in advance.

I live in Cornwall and on Wednesday 2 f 15s (I think) flew directly over my head, more or less within touching distance ( it seemed that low anyway).

Do NATO have any or is it Uncle Sam keeping an eye on what's going on or were they just on exercise?

Cheers

Two F15's were in LFA2 and passed close to Newquay heading your way ....previously up on the towline with a KC135 and three other F15's a little earlier. Seperate to the intercept later.

[page_verify]

OK page_verify, I see your point, but, if a radar lock or sonar ping is an act of war how do we find the Bears in the first place. Someone has to lock on to follow them surely ?

Tracking an aircraft with a primary area search radar is what long range air defence units to do "see" radar returns that aren't using a transponder and that don't appear on the secondary radar systems almost all controllers use. Locking on to an aircraft with a fire control radar is a very different matter, that's not just having a general look to see what's out there that's putting your bullseye on the target and following its every move so you can ensure a radar guided weapon will find it whatever it does.

[Morseman]

Thanks page_verify, clearer picture now.

[onemac]

Having read the above posts I feel you've all missed the basic reasoning - it's because the Lightnings, Phantoms and Tornado F3's have all been retired. Typhoon is all we've got left

Al

[beefsteak]

According to the times paper (Thursday 19 Feb) the USSR has spent 32 million on defence over the last year.

So half a Typhoon then? Not a lot to get worried about !!

[NiceGuyEddie]

A lad I work with suggested we should send the Reds up to trail some smoke around them

I would like to see that pic

I would pay good money to see the Reds doing the 'Twister' around a Bear or two!

[wolfie138]

Showing my ignorance, what's a "QRA"?

[ythanpythan]

Quick Reaction Alert- Simply put some aircraft, Typhoons in our case, are kept ready to go at a moments notice to intercept aircraft deemed a (potential) threat or of interest. Basically a Scramble!

[Andy_99]

Quick Reaction Alert- Simply put some aircraft, Typhoons in our case, are kept ready to go at a moments notice to intercept aircraft deemed a (potential) threat or of interest. Basically a Scramble!

& also Armed with Live weapons

[Supra]

According to the times paper (Thursday 19 Feb) the USSR has spent 32 million on defence over the last year.

So half a Typhoon then? Not a lot to get worried about !!

Rest Easy Folks! That 32 million the 'USSR' ( Un-United?) has spent on defence over the last year was Russian Roubles , so ONLY about 328,960 GBP!
Our UK Government waste more than that every hour of every day on many different topics*. For those reading on this Forum that includes ordering the wrong Aircraft Carrier, the wrong F-35 'Latening II', scrapping aircraft we still need.... GR4, Nimrod MR2/MR4/R1, Harrier? & procuring the most p*ss-poor version of the 330 Tanker at the highest cost per hour! Okay....forget the "Rest Easy Folks" bit!
(* Didn't know they did different Topics, usually have the one in the red packaging with the hazelnut on it...)

[space monkey]

According to the times paper (Thursday 19 Feb) the USSR has spent 32 million on defence over the last year.

So half a Typhoon then? Not a lot to get worried about !!

Rest Easy Folks! That 32 million the 'USSR' ( Un-United?) has spent on defence over the last year was Russian Roubles , so ONLY about 328,960 GBP!
Our UK Government waste more than that every hour of every day on many different topics*. For those reading on this Forum that includes ordering the wrong Aircraft Carrier, the wrong F-35 'Latening II', scrapping aircraft we still need.... GR4, Nimrod MR2/MR4/R1, Harrier? & procuring the most p*ss-poor version of the 330 Tanker at the highest cost per hour! Okay....forget the "Rest Easy Folks" bit!
(* Didn't know they did different Topics, usually have the one in the red packaging with the hazelnut on it...)

I remember the typhoon being heralded a waste of money,

[Andy_99]

Nowt wrong with the carrier just they can't make up their mind on the deck config.
Wonder how many ministers are on the consortium board (ooo Controversial)

Why they didn't take the US offer up assistance of funding the Cat 'n' Trap config nobody knows.

Would of then been able to have the Dave 'C' & numerous other useful carrier borne aircraft types & more importantly have full compatibility with other nations.

But of course that would be far to sensible & forward thinking.

[space monkey]

The Navy do like to be a little different tho, maybe they could compromise and have a ramp take off with cat recovery, you could even fit a cat along the recovering runway likes cats 3&4 on the USS ships

[wolfie138]

Quick Reaction Alert- Simply put some aircraft, Typhoons in our case, are kept ready to go at a moments notice to intercept aircraft deemed a (potential) threat or of interest. Basically a Scramble!

ta!