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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by T_J » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:58 am

Excellent work by Matt Poole at following links. Overlay of 1940s photo recce imagery of Mingaladon onto Google Earth.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by quid21 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:03 pm

According to the beeb they have found a crate, but muddy water is preventing them seeing whats inside it. Be interesting to see whats there once they have pumped the water out!

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Richard B » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:35 pm

quid21 wrote:According to the beeb they have found a crate, but muddy water is preventing them seeing whats inside it. Be interesting to see whats there once they have pumped the water out!
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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by POL » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:42 pm

Water? A crumbling mess of rusted metal, at a guess.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by quid21 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:40 pm

I guess that depends.

Donald Campbells Bluebird K7 boat is being rebuilt after it spent over 50 years in a Lake, so it can't be impossible that some of these old Spitfires may be in restorable condition.....

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Richard B » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:49 pm

If any are found all could be rebuilt, you only need the number plate.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Sparts99 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:57 pm

Isn't there a Mk1 Spitfire flying now that was buried in the sand just off Dunkirk ? I don't think freshwater corrosion could be as bad as sea water. And yes, all you need is the data plate really. Airframe Assemblies can supply any airframe parts from new.
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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by steve149c » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:09 pm

Corrosion all depends if there is oxygen, the lower the oxygen content the less the corrosion. So hopefully this is stagnant water, so it should be minimal!
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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Tailplane » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:39 am

Sparts99 wrote:Isn't there a Mk1 Spitfire flying now that was buried in the sand just off Dunkirk ? I don't think freshwater corrosion could be as bad as sea water. And yes, all you need is the data plate really. Airframe Assemblies can supply any airframe parts from new.

Shows what can be done with a number plate.



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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by FTS » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:19 pm

Tailplane wrote:
Sparts99 wrote:Isn't there a Mk1 Spitfire flying now that was buried in the sand just off Dunkirk ? I don't think freshwater corrosion could be as bad as sea water. And yes, all you need is the data plate really. Airframe Assemblies can supply any airframe parts from new.

Shows what can be done with a number plate.



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There's a lot more than just the data plate from the original aircraft on P9374.
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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Tailplane » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:29 pm

FTS wrote:
Tailplane wrote:
Sparts99 wrote:Isn't there a Mk1 Spitfire flying now that was buried in the sand just off Dunkirk ? I don't think freshwater corrosion could be as bad as sea water. And yes, all you need is the data plate really. Airframe Assemblies can supply any airframe parts from new.

Shows what can be done with a number plate.



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There's a lot more than just the data plate from the original aircraft on P9374.
Quite right. Many of the original parts were used in this difficult restoration.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Sparts99 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:28 pm

My point was that that being submerged in water all these years wouldn't necessarily mean an airworthy restoration is out of the question, and any corroded parts are replaceable if not restorable. I know of a MkV fuselage in the UK with serial number stencilled inside but no data plate, yet another Spit with the same serial number is flying elsewhere, the flying one has the data plate on a largely new build airframe. I spoke to a restorer last year who was working on returning a Tiger Moth to flying, he explained the whole concept of the data plate from the authorities point of view, quite long winded but in a nutshell it allows a traceable history for the aircraft, even if most of it isn't original.
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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by T_J » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:59 pm

Update from Peter Arnold.
Digging started today. Lots of scraping, not much depth

Yet more archeology for the sponsors documentary.

Second larger digger arrives this Friday I gather.

JCB have been splendid and are 100% behind this project.

I would not expect too much before the weekend.

Images from me are a no-no at this time ahead of Wargaming formal release or dedicated press release. They are the rules.

This coming Sunday Telegraph may well have site images.
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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by plmc135 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:24 am

The latest report on the BBC News website this morning is suggesting that there are NO Spitfires buried in Burma.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Figure8 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:37 am

Or at least none in the site being investigated. Speculation that there may be some elsewhere.
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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Tailplane » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:26 am

plmc135 wrote:The latest report on the BBC News website this morning is suggesting that there are NO Spitfires buried in Burma.

Paul


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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by T_J » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:04 pm

As an independent observer Peter Arnold puts it into perspective. At Mingaladon they apparently never got a chance to dig at the hot spots.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by T_J » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:04 am

David Cundall interview. See video at following link.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Zeb » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:57 am

Nil - zero - zilch.
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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by SteveS » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:46 am

Quelle surprise.

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