BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

[Flyingmonster]

Even though I tried to remain optimistic, the BBC 1 o’clock news stated the search for ‘survivors’ has now been called off and this has become a ‘recovery’ operation.

Sad news indeed. Thoughts to all involved in this tragic time.

[mrlongbow]

Very sad news indeed. But why oh why does the BBC ALWAYS have to give it the "safety" "old planes" etc routine. Whether true or not they can never ever just say there has been an accident. All they do is set of the dic*heads who know next to nothing about the military. Like the ones i heard talking last night whilst i was out and about. "this shows low level flying isnt worth it" crap like this. Seriously gets me annoyed. Gobbing off before the FULL facts are known. This is a very sad thing to happen but i feel the BBC never helps...

One annoyed person.

[Scaleybrat]

Very sad news indeed. But why oh why does the BBC ALWAYS have to give it the "safety" "old planes" etc routine. Whether true or not they can never ever just say there has been an accident. All they do is set of the dic*heads who know next to nothing about the military. Like the ones i heard talking last night whilst i was out and about. "this shows low level flying isnt worth it" crap like this. Seriously gets me annoyed. Gobbing off before the FULL facts are known. This is a very sad thing to happen but i feel the BBC never helps...

One annoyed person.

Totally agree - BBC Scotland's reporting last night was uninformed bile about something they clearly have very little knowledge about. In the direct aftermath of a clearly serious incident with a high probability of loss of life, the BBC reporter decided to home in on the precautionary measure to ground the Lossiemouth fleet, suggesting the incident could have been safety related to the GR4 airframe. Why they just don't stick to the facts, as known at the time, and stop this Daily Mail type reporting is beyond me. It just fuels the uninformed with further nonsense to perpetuate on internet forums. If your blood pressure can stand it, just read some of the inane comments on the Daily Mail article for the accident. I'll not grace it by providing a link - you'll be able to sniff out the cr@p for yourselves, if you really feel the need.

[BOLLO]

Sky News reporting that one of the crew that was picked up as now passed away.Very sad indeed.

[Flyingmonster]

Blue Skies...

[thommg]

What a terrible tragedy.

This just on the MoD website now:

Group Captain Ian Gale, Station Commander RAF Lossiemouth, has made the following statement:

"Following the incident involving two of our Tornado GR4 aircraft in the Moray Firth yesterday, it is with great sadness that I must confirm the death of one of the crew members, an officer from 15 (Reserve) Squadron, based here at RAF Lossiemouth.

"A second crew member remains under medical care, where he is in a serious but stable condition.

"Two additional personnel remain unaccounted for. Due to extremely poor weather conditions in the area, the RAF and Her Majesty's Coastguard have made a joint decision not to resume search and rescue operations.

"The operation will be resumed as a recovery operation as soon as possible, but we must be realistic: given the length of time that has elapsed since the accident, there is no expectation of recovering missing personnel alive.

"The Royal Air Force is in contact with the next of kin of all those involved. As I am sure you will understand, they have asked for a period of time to take in the news and inform extended family members before further details are released. The Royal Air Force intend to respect this and I would ask the media to do likewise.

"Clearly, this incident will be subject to full investigation, and a Service Inquiry will be led by the Military Aviation Authority. It is important that we establish the facts of what happened and it is vital that the investigation is allowed to take its course.

[Reptile 1]

Gonk already reported 1 page back.

RIP to the ones that have sadly not made, best wishes to the 1 surviving Airman.

[gonk]

So sorry missed other posts,just noticed the arguments,this yet again bad news

[Reptile 1]

No worries.

[Flyingmonster]

Removed the duplicate post.

[Reach 392]

Rest in Peace to the airmen who didn't make it, very sad news.
Best wishes to the pilot who did survive, thoughts are with their families and RAF Lossiemouth.

[lowlevelRAF]

RIP, thoughts are with the families of the aircrew at this hard time, also hope that the pilot in hospital recovers well.

Matt

[Blackcat1]

My condolences to all, fly high guys!, RIP.

Best wishes to the surviving crew member, hope he/she makes a full recovery.

[Blackcat1]

I dont listen to the news anymore, the guy i saw on sky news yesterday said " the Tornado is a big jet flown by a big engine!!??, and they always practice over the sea as it is safer!"

If low flying is so dangerous there would be accidents a damn sight more often!!!

[Petepilot]

Terrible, terrible news. RIP to the crew-members that didn't make it, and a speedy recovery to the pilot that did.

[Reptile 1]

More likely both with flying at 500mph making the impact at 1000mph. The fact that one has survived is a miracle in itself.

[airtyphoon]

RIP to the service personal who have sadly lost there lives and a speedy recovery to the pilot in hospital.

airtyphoon

[Matt]

My heartfelt thoughts go out to the families and friends of these brave individuals. May you rest in peace

[SteveS]

Guys, stop arguing and give this thread the respect it deserves. if you want to argue, do it by PM.

Steve

[SteveS]

Thread tidied up.