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Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by baz1 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:26 pm

just been reading on Yahoo News RAF planes GPS systems jammed over Cyprus is thought to be from Syrian Territory or spies on the ground in Cyprus.
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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by Hawkwind26 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:31 pm

Another news source suggesting that it could only be Russian technology. An A400 airframe was affected after take off. Plenty of Russian nationals living, working and holidaying in Cyprus, particularly in and around Limassol.

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by Typeflyer » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:35 pm

Hawkwind26 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:31 pm
Another news source suggesting that it could only be Russian technology. An A400 airframe was affected after take off. Plenty of Russian nationals living, working and holidaying in Cyprus, particularly in and around Limassol.
....and money laundering

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by 100arw » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:26 pm

Typeflyer wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:35 pm
....and money laundering
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Ask yourself why would they do it, or what would they achieve.

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by POL » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:16 pm

This NOTAM has been in force since March 2018. Yes, you read that right, three years ago.

Well done to whoeer dug it up and rehashed it as a new story!

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A0356/18 NOTAMN Q) LCCC/QGWXX/IV/NBO/E /000/999/3429N03246E180
A) LCCC B) 1803201004 C) PERM

E) RECENTLY, GPS SIGNAL INTERRUPTIONS HAVE BEEN REPORTED BY THE PILOTS OF THE AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN SOME PARTS OF NICOSIA FIR. AIRCRAFT OPERATORS OPERATING WITHIN NICOSIA FIR ARE ADVISED TO EXERCISE CAUTION.

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by Agent K » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:14 pm

Exactly EGVP I remember reading this several years back. Also as much as the thread title/reports are rather insular and suggest RAF aircraft have been "jammed" that doesn't show a knowledge of the system. The signal is jammed, affecting all aircraft/systems in the affected area that use GPS, not just RAF aircraft.

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Post by rh226 » Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:53 pm

That NOTAM has been replaced by this one from 2020, which is still in force
A0211/20 - GPS SIGNAL INTERRUPTIONS HAVE BEEN REPORTED WITHIN NICOSIA FIR.
PILOTS ARE REQUESTED TO PROMPTLY REPORT TO ATC ANY GPS SIGNAL INTERRUPTION EXPERIENCED.
11 FEB 12:30 2020 UNTIL PERM.
CREATED: 11 FEB 12:34 2020

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by page_verify » Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:23 pm

Agent K wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:14 pm
Exactly EGVP I remember reading this several years back. Also as much as the thread title/reports are rather insular and suggest RAF aircraft have been "jammed" that doesn't show a knowledge of the system. The signal is jammed, affecting all aircraft/systems in the affected area that use GPS, not just RAF aircraft.
Perhaps the "jamming" signal can be turned on and off, and is only being turned on when only a specific, chosen aircraft is within its range?

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by Thunder » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:46 pm

Maybe it’s got nothing to do with jamming, and it’s just a poor and unreliable signal area?

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by steamy » Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:21 pm

yeah, all those trees blocking the multiple satellite signals in the air
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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by cj9ru » Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:54 pm

We also interfere with GPS and have the capability to do the same ourselves.
Example is here
https://www.aurora.nats.co.uk/htmlAIP/P ... en-GB.html
Difference being we usually pre warn...
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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by Wobs58 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:35 pm

NOTAM for jam testing on Salisbury today, GPS that is, not strawberry.

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by Vulcanone » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:36 pm

Wobs58 wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:35 pm
NOTAM for jam testing on Salisbury today, GPS that is, not strawberry.
Have you been watching Space Balls.... And that was Raspberry :whistle:

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by Wobs58 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:00 pm

No, just reading NOTAMs

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by Richard B » Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:15 am

The issue was i think back in 2018 with the European galileo system coming on line.

The notams for the jamming of gps could be testing systems if the EU turn off galileo and we are left with gps and glonass.
Gps as never been the best. Glonass was more accurate. And the new EU galileo system is very good.
Be intresting to see if these new notams exercises have any relation to the EU blocking galileo.


Brexit is a severe party pooper to celebrations surrounding completion of the Galileo system. Various stations for communication with the satellites are located in the UK, and British researchers and companies have also made a major contribution to the development of Galileo. What's more, the receivers for the encrypted high-accuracy signal are being developed in the UK.

The discord between the EU and the UK revolves around access to that signal. The EU argues that only EU member states should have access to the signal, and that countries are either a member state of the EU or they are not. At the same time, the UK is claiming its contribution to the Galileo project, also in financial terms. As this is just one of the many squabbles surrounding Brexit, it's anybody's guess as to what the final solution will be.

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by Rugbyref » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:03 am

With the current shooting themselves in the foot tendency by the EU, the final solution, and hopefully near term one, will be the implosion of the EU.

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by Agent K » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:21 pm

Rugbyref wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:03 am
With the current shooting themselves in the foot tendency by the EU, the final solution, and hopefully near term one, will be the implosion of the EU.
Final solution? where have I heard that reference before.......... and given the collapse of UK trade and future collapse of industries sold false promises of sunlit uplands (for example over 40% reduction in exports to the EU, drowning in cost of red tape) the EU future has never been more secure, which sounds out very much what I hear from my extensive recent travels around Europe and working for a European company.

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by Rugbyref » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:51 pm

Agent K wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:21 pm
Rugbyref wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:03 am
With the current shooting themselves in the foot tendency by the EU, the final solution, and hopefully near term one, will be the implosion of the EU.
Final solution? where have I heard that reference before.......... and given the collapse of UK trade and future collapse of industries sold false promises of sunlit uplands (for example over 40% reduction in exports to the EU, drowning in cost of red tape) the EU future has never been more secure, which sounds out very much what I hear from my extensive recent travels around Europe and working for a European company.
Believe your own propaganda if you wish. The only thing that should be secure is the facility where they lock up von der Leyen, who is killing thousands with her vaccine saga.

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Re: Enemies jam RAF planes GPS

Post by Agent K » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:57 pm

Rugbyref wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:51 pm
Agent K wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:21 pm
Rugbyref wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:03 am
With the current shooting themselves in the foot tendency by the EU, the final solution, and hopefully near term one, will be the implosion of the EU.
Final solution? where have I heard that reference before.......... and given the collapse of UK trade and future collapse of industries sold false promises of sunlit uplands (for example over 40% reduction in exports to the EU, drowning in cost of red tape) the EU future has never been more secure, which sounds out very much what I hear from my extensive recent travels around Europe and working for a European company.
Believe your own propaganda if you wish. The only thing that should be secure is the facility where they lock up von der Leyen, who is killing thousands with her vaccine saga.
It's actually fact, not propoganda, it's quite easy to check if you have the skills/intelligence.... as opposed to your propoganda and your scary obsession with the EU, you're free, £350M a week is now going to the NHS, funding their great pay rise, there is no internal bordar with NI, red tape has gone............. etc. etc. zzzzzzzzzz..............

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