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RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by Agent K » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:29 pm

bizfreeq wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:39 pm
Surely all 135 units will re-equip with the KC-46 eventually
No, not given the current orders vs the 135 fleet size.

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by Harkins » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:37 am

Spitfire88 wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:51 pm
It’s seems mildenhall is shutting then despite all the rumours to the contrary https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/air ... s-1.616093
I guess that is that then. Blimey, this hobby really is in its final death throes in the UK :'(

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by johnwayne » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:05 am

Harkins wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:37 am
Spitfire88 wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:51 pm
It’s seems mildenhall is shutting then despite all the rumours to the contrary https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/air ... s-1.616093
I guess that is that then. Blimey, this hobby really is in its final death throes in the UK :'(
Not if your 'home' base is Fairford mate ;) The 'Heath' is also as long term secure as possible , and several years are likely to pass before flying ceases at Mildenhall during which time anything can happen - its never over 'till its over . :unsure:

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by andrewn » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:51 am

johnwayne wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:05 am

Not if your 'home' base is Fairford mate ;) The 'Heath' is also as long term secure as possible , and several years are likely to pass before flying ceases at Mildenhall during which time anything can happen - its never over 'till its over . :unsure:
Maybe, though as pointed out above an RC135 movement a day is hardly rich pickings is it? Living so far away from the Hall I only ever get there once or twice a year, but it's been a staple for so long I for one will miss it. I must admit I was getting ever more optimistic the closure was going to be reversed, but with this huge contract award it now seems pretty much a done deal :(

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by Harkins » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:06 am

johnwayne wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:05 am
Not if your 'home' base is Fairford mate ;) The 'Heath' is also as long term secure as possible , and several years are likely to pass before flying ceases at Mildenhall during which time anything can happen - its never over 'till its over . :unsure:
There's not a lot to see at Fairford is there? Possibly 3 B-52s for a couple of weeks and some occasional and very unpredictable U-2 movements? And Lakenheath whilst quite active at the moment, is due some of those F-35s isn't it? And apart from being ugly, isn't most 'flying' of those done in simulators now?

I have to admit, as I don't have a local base because I am about as far away as you can get from any active base, I am naturally of the sense that there's not much to see anyway, but I think it is fair to say that we are not exactly in the halcyon days of military aviation in the UK. Losing Mildenhall and its aircraft and visitors isn't going to help. And even less activity in the low flying areas now without Ospreys or Hercules.

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by Reach1985 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:40 pm

Interestingly no mention of the MC-130’s in the article? An over sight on the public affairs department or something we don’t know? In terms of operability I imagine that the special ops mission relies on the assets working together (for refuel etc.) but maybe there is more to this than meets the eye?

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by conelrad » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:52 pm

bizfreeq wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:39 pm
Surely all 135 units will re-equip with the KC-46 eventually
KC-46 is not a KC-135 replacement. The -135s will be flying for a long, long time.

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by James Cutting » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:07 pm

Technically, it is replacing a lot of the older KC-135's so can be seen as a replacement.
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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by Vulcanone » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:20 pm

And they have yet to sort out the KC-10 replacement also. Perfect opportunity missed sometime ago..

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to End Missions. Lakenheath to get F35 by

Post by blackbird60 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:33 am

...Hi Windy
How did your meeting go as regarding the closing of mildenhall go,is it still on the cards.someone mention it was all hyped up from the media side of things.as the news came from the penticon,it must have truth in it.
Many thanks.
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Post by Agent K » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:37 pm

blackbird60 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:33 am
...Hi Windy
How did your meeting go as regarding the closing of mildenhall go,is it still on the cards.someone mention it was all hyped up from the media side of things.as the news came from the penticon,it must have truth in it.
Many thanks.
John
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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by Spitfire88 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:02 pm

It’s been confirmed Mildenhall will not close unti 2027 now.

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by F4JPhantomII » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:34 pm

https://www.forces.net/news/raf-mildenh ... least-2027 Don’t know if there’s been an official press release but this is what mentions the 2027 date.

What’s the possibility of Mildenhall ending up like Fairford has been until recently, an operational base but with no based aircraft?

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by Nighthawke » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:41 pm

Or as Sculthorpe was for decades under care and maintenance. The difference with Mildenhall though is its close proximity to the surrounding populace which will probably mean if won't just be left.

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by Kurnass » Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:29 am

If Mildenhall is to close by 2027, I wonder which year the last aircraft will leave the base. Surely before 2027, as the base will probably have to be stripped of military equipment and being demilitarized?

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by Lossie » Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:45 am

Some clarification here regarding aircraft:
https://aviation-news.keypublishing.com ... e-delayed/

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by Snoop 95 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:08 am

Lossie wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:45 am
Some clarification here regarding aircraft:
https://aviation-news.keypublishing.com ... e-delayed/
Surely, then, if "no resident aircraft will leave before 2027" as it says in the Aviation news article, that means that all the supporting hardware will be removed after that date. Resulting in an actual closure date of something like 2029.

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by skidrow » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:31 am

Correct no moves before 2027 is what is being briefed. However, base closure still hasn’t been confirmed yet with a decision due later this year.

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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by filmman » Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:59 pm

Remember, the closure was first announced in Jan 2015; It's now 2027-29. Most English District Councils are currently generating 15 year housing development plans to 2035 - Mildenhall would most likely be too late to be included. Trump promised to pull out of Afghanistan as he is doing in an election year. He is against wasting US money and troops on free-loading foreigners -"America First". Trump is most likely to be re-elected, so spending on new foreign bases might decline. Mildenhall might stays open longer to save money, whilst some European bases decline and shut - expect surprises.
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Re: RAF Mildenhall to close. Lakenheath to get F-35 by 2020

Post by andrewn » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:36 pm

It's got to be the most protracted closure decision ever! Makes you wonder what's going on behind the scenes. Closure announced 5 years ago now, contracts seemingly let in UK and Germany related to rebasing of the assets, but actual closure postponed twice with the latest delay taking it to at least 12 years after the initial announcement. There's quite a lot of politics at play I'd imagine, after all the UK is easily the US' closest ally and we generally let the visiting forces go about their business unhindered - whose to say that would always be the same in Germany, for example if the Greens were the largest party in a coalition? Then on our side of the fence you've got the MoD under massive pressure to release real estate for housing, plus Marshalls looking for a new home in the vicinity. Watch this space I guess?

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