The question is is 50MP better......judge for yourself.....

[Pen Pusher]

Unless you have similar photos taken with a different camera using the same settings and lens, then there is no way to tell if these 50MP images are better than a lower MP camera.

Brian

[The Phantom]

I would have thought that the 50mp camera only comes into its own if you are going to do huge enlargement prints, or do a big a big crop on the image.

[Pen Pusher]

Correct. The High MP cameras are primarily aimed at the studio portrait and landscape photographers. Unless you are going to do heavy crops then not much use for aviation photography.

Brian

[barrow758]

I think if you had put up two shots the same from the 5ds,s and the 7d2 at a 100persent crop then we could maybe see a clear difference ,only thing as well how much money do you won't to spend I'm struggling to see any dir in these shots all are good

[nellis6]

I've recently held an exhibition where we'd had 18" x 12" prints.

I use a D80 10.1mp & D40 6mp.

18x12 is not that big though, a 10.1mp camera is more than adequate for that size. Picking up on previous comments, unless you are going to make really large prints or large crops I see little point in a camera with that amount of MP. If all that you are going to do is look at them on a computer screen you will see little or no difference between a camera with 20mp and one with 50mp.

[Jonesy]

Are these photos posted full frame or crops?

To me, the increase in mega pixels has seen the skill and expertise required to pan and correctly frame your subject decrease. All you have to do now is crop to your hearts delight.

You see it very regularly in the low level shots. The first shot posted is a nice full frame aircraft, then the second shot is a nice cockpit shot but hang on, the background is identical. Then you realise it's just been a crop of the original photograph.

[Bobbster]

Impossible to tell as they are web sized images and nothing to compare to The 36mp Nikons producing some rivet popping images so suspect this should too. Also as they are on Photobucket the quality is somewhat compromised, you will see a huge difference uploading to FLickr

[Bilvo]

I've recently held an exhibition where we'd had 18" x 12" prints.

I use a D80 10.1mp & D40 6mp.

18x12 is not that big though, a 10.1mp camera is more than adequate for that size. Picking up on previous comments, unless you are going to make really large prints or large crops I see little point in a camera with that amount of MP. If all that you are going to do is look at them on a computer screen you will see little or know difference between a camera with 20mp and one with 50mp.

Good to see that the 'press' have got to grips with the English language... I think you mean "little or NO difference"

Know = 1) be aware of 2) be or feel certain of the truth of (information etc.) 3) be acquainted with 4) have a grasp of or understand (a skill or LANGUAGE)

[nigelblake]

As someone who uses 7D2, and 5Ds I can say that there is very little difference at all in image quality, the actual photosites (pixels) on the 7D2 are 4.1 microns and the 5Ds they measure 4.14 microns, the dynamic range is being 11.8 and 12.4 respectively, as you can see there is little in it. So, if you shot through the same lens at the same distance with these 2 bodies the image would be pretty much identical. The big difference is that the 5Ds is slow at 5 FPS and slows to about 3 fps as the buffer fills up to its max of 28, compared to the constant 10 FPS of the 7D2 and a buffer capacity of 31 RAW files...

[GhostFlight91]

Lovely shots

[Richard B]

Got shots from a Canon D30 at 2million pixs from 2002 that would look just as good posted on the web at 800x at 250mbs.
you really cannot do it justice on forums, megapixels are for high quality large prints spreads etc in the printed comercial world.

[John flightpath]

Personally speaking I use a Nikon L810 Bridge camera 16mp for quite a bit of stuff . Its a handy thing to carry around at museums, slower moving shots, and civil airfields.6 months ago I bought a used Canon 450d which reacts quicker when setting up the shot, and I tend to use it more in the manual mode. This is 12mp. I love it, and I can use some of my old Pentax fit lenses with an adaptor. I think you can go on chasing the Megapixels. I think if you shoot it right in the first place its job done ! I probably will up grade again at some stage but probably max 18 - 20mp

Cheers
John 'flightpath'.

[jdupons]

Let's get back to some fundamentals... no matter how sophisticatde and expensive your equipment is , if you take pictures of aircraft which are backlit ( as some of the pictures here are) the results will be poor , or very poor... equipment is not everything, far from it. The most difficult in aircraft photography is being able to photograph aircraft in good conditions . Once you have good conditions, almost any average equipment will do and you will have great shots. Fair light conditions, and Having the ability to get close to the aircraft is among the most important fundamentals .
unfortunately many "spotters" and "photographers" tend to think that the most expensive and the most sophisticated gear, the best pictures...There is sometimes a sort of competition to show off tons of camera bodies, lenses, and stuff, as if it was the guarantee of super pictures... and nothing could be more wrong. Get close to the aircraft (if you can), get proper photographic conditions ( fair weather if possible, no backlight) , and a fairly modest equipment and skill will do the rest.

[Pen Pusher]

and I will put a 5DsR with Zeiss lenses up against any other set up, and it will beat it

No it wont. A Sony A7rII with its 35 mm full-frame back-illuminated 42.4-Megapixel CMOS sensor, 5 axis image stabilization, which works with ANY attached lens, via a converter, will beat the 5DsR.

When Canon introduced the 5DsR, they had a dig at Sony for not producing a large sensor camera which has backfired on them now as its the 42MP A7rII that's winning the camera of the year awards and no mention of the 50MP 5DsR.

equipment, in the REAL photographic world, is everything, that is why professionals use the best equipment available.

No it isn't. As has been mentioned countless times before, you can have the most expensive equipment going and it will not make you a great photographer. It's knowing how to use the kit you have that makes you a great photographer.

Brian

[Pen Pusher]

wexphotographic

Sony 500mm F4 G SSM


Brian

[Ben Montgomery]

Moving this over to Photography Q&A - probably better suited there!

[Pen Pusher]

from Popular Photography test:

When it comes to absolute resolution in the 35mm (full-frame) sensor format, the Sony Sony A7R II still trails the Canon EOS 5Ds....

http://www.popphoto.com/camera-test-sony-a7r-ii

The curse of Selective quoting. From the same paragraph.

However, the A7R II ends up being a more versatile camera as it stands up to low-light shooting better than the Canon, despite not being able to equal the low light AF performance. Add in 4K video capture, and a lower price, and the A7R II pulls further ahead. For some shooters, the difference in size and weight alone will be more important than the 4K capture.

Once again, Sony has found itself at the forefront of image capture.

Could go on doing this ad-nausea.

DxOMark Sensor Scores

Canon EOS5D - 87
Sony A7rII - 98

dxomark

Brian

[Pen Pusher]

from Popular Photography test:

When it comes to absolute resolution in the 35mm (full-frame) sensor format, the Sony Sony A7R II still trails the Canon EOS 5Ds....

http://www.popphoto.com/camera-test-sony-a7r-ii

And Popular Photography, that you quoted from above, has awarded the Sony A7rII 'Camera of the Year 2015'

Popular Photography

Ad-nausea.

Brian

[Pen Pusher]

Toys, pram, throw.

Brian

[Pen Pusher]

true, but you did say to try and get a Sony 500mm lens............................

of course, there is still this option from Minolta way back.

I have the Sony branded version of the 500mm and an excellent lens it is as well. See Here. Although I have the adapter, not tried it on the A7 yet. Mmmmm.

Brian