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Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by planehazza » Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:36 pm

Thanks, I think that's the best option for now. Any bags to look at? One that could hold the body and the 300mm lens would be ideal, and of course I have no idea where to start...

Something like this? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Backpack-Capac ... hdGY&psc=1

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by James Cutting » Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:49 pm

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by planehazza » Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:50 pm

James Cutting wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:49 pm
Maybe a style like this - https://www.amazon.co.uk/TARION-Backpac ... 264&sr=8-3
I was literally just looking at that, but it's not gonna get here in time :/

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by James Cutting » Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:18 pm

Maybe one like this? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kono-Backpack- ... 18&sr=8-21

Usually I have used Lowepro, but a bit more pricey and ideally you need it ASAP

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Concept-Photog ... 41&sr=8-11
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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by planehazza » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:38 pm

Ordered that 70-300 lens, D7200, and a Lowepro Flipside 400 AW bag earlier this evening. Hope to get them Thursday. Grabbed some SD cards and batteries (built in USB charge port ones) from amazon. Wish me luck!
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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by Nighthawke » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:44 pm

If this is your first camera and straight into an airshow then you'll need all the luck you can get.

Good Luck!

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by planehazza » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:47 pm

Nighthawke wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:44 pm
If this is your first camera and straight into an airshow then you'll need all the luck you can get.

Good Luck!
My first one I've owned, but I've borrowed a camera and lens for RIAT before. I'll learn as I go and each subsequent photo will be better than the last, I hope. Either way, I'm learning :)

Just bought D7200 for dummies too. Got some reading to cram in too :D

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by planehazza » Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:33 pm

Sat watching this, and gotta say, it's going in, piece by piece. I'm excited!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kw3P1yRwLs

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by James Cutting » Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:41 pm

Some good information here, leaning towards Canon BUT good basic principles (if needed) https://www.shootsmart.co.uk/how-to-pho ... -aircraft/

https://www.google.com/search?q=aviatio ... s-wiz-serp
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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by planehazza » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:28 pm

Thanks, good read!

Also.... it's HEEERRREEE! Needs a bit of clean but can't fault it otherwise. 128GB in slot one for RAW and 64GB in slot 2 for JPEG. Been playing around with it on unofficially extended lunch break and it seems canny. Simple things like it wanting to use flash in auto mode etc; need to work out how to stop that when not needed aside from using the no flash mode.

I have a few questions, so I'll open up a new thread as to not come away from the context from this thread

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by James Cutting » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:39 pm

Use shutter priority mate! Seriously, stick it in that, auto ISO, best way to begin with :) Shutter 1/640 and up for jets, and 1/250 below for props, is my recommendation :) Just to get you started!
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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by Nighthawke » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:49 pm

If it didn't come with a manual, search for one on the internet and save it (probably a PDF). That way you can look for menu changes like your flash issue you mentioned.

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by planehazza » Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:09 pm

Nighthawke wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:49 pm
If it didn't come with a manual, search for one on the internet and save it (probably a PDF). That way you can look for menu changes like your flash issue you mentioned.
It did, mate, just haven't had a chance to read it yet. I'm an avid RTFM'er, don't worry 🤣 Thank you
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Use shutter priority mate! Seriously, stick it in that, auto ISO, best way to begin with :) Shutter 1/640 and up for jets, and 1/250 below for props, is my recommendation :) Just to get you started!
Yeah that's what I'm going to be using, and thanks for the shutter speed advice. They're actually sort of the values I had penciled in my mind to try for those settings. Is it heresy for me to say I sort of like the occasional 'prop stop' look? I can image a very sharp, very up close 'dramatic' prop stop looking quite cool. I'm going to have fun, I can already tell...

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by Nighthawke » Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:21 pm

Personally I don't like frozen props but I understand that some would rather have a sharp image than a fuzzy one. But your photos, your choice. Most importantly - enjoy!

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by planehazza » Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:24 pm

Nighthawke wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:21 pm
Personally I don't like frozen props but I understand that some would rather have a sharp image than a fuzzy one. But your photos, your choice. Most importantly - enjoy!
Oh I do prefer the realistic blurred prop, I just think maybe there's a shot for the stop prop :) Who knows, I'm just using my brain to imagine the photos. This time in 24 hours I'll know from direct experience :)

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by Archer » Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:36 pm

planehazza wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:28 pm
Simple things like it wanting to use flash in auto mode etc; need to work out how to stop that when not needed aside from using the no flash mode.
You can't prevent the flash from popping up if you're in the Auto mode, but the no-flash mode is basically what you're looking for. This is Auto but without the flash ever intruding. My suggestion would be to use P or Program mode. You will not automatically see the flash pop up and you've got more options to play with.

For aircraft whizzing past, go with shutter priority as suggested. You could also use aperture priority with the aperture set to a sweet spot for that lens (f5.6 or f8) but with that, you have to check if the shutter speeds are going to be within the range you want to be in. Remember to have Auto-ISO on and set the maximum ISO you don't want to go above in the settings. That will give you a lot of leeway on the exposure. I use AF-C with 3D tracking. That way you can focus on an airframe and have the camera's focus track it as it moves. And don't forget to enjoy the show! :P

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by B58Hustler » Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:05 pm

Just don't show any of your 'frozen' prop pictures to any pilots that have had the misfortune to lose an engine over a built up area.
It won't help their PTSD........ ;)

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by planehazza » Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:37 am

I'll create a separate thread once I've gone through my snaps but it was a bit of a disaster. RIAT was far from ideal weather/light conditions for my first outing. I spoke to a few photographers whilst there for advice and adjusted shutter speeds etc accordingly but 80% of my photos were grossly under exposed.

I ran shutter priority with about 1/2500 shutter and manually upped ISO quite high to 1000/1600 but they're all dark. I played around with different metering modes, typically using spot or center weighted. I was clearly doing something wrong as others with similar settings were getting much better shots. I should have tried exposure compensation maybe?

Anyways, I'll post some unedited raws up in another thread tonight :)

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by Nighthawke » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:28 am

Flying shots of against bright or cloudy sky? Definitely exposure compensation required.

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Re: Head Spinning - Newbie DSLR Purchase

Post by planehazza » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:55 am

Nighthawke wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:28 am
Flying shots of against bright or cloudy sky? Definitely exposure compensation required.
Yeah it was great overcast all day. I should have played with the compensation and bracketing. I knew it would be learning curve and I wasn't expecting good results first time. I managed to get some that I think will come out nice with some cropping and tweaking.

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