Airliners.net Rejection

[davedubya]

Hi all, I've been noticing this thread popping up quite often.
There is an alternative site to which to upload our photos. It's called plane-mad.com. Its an English site based in the UK and was started by an enthusiast who unfortunately recently died.
The site remains in safe hands and is likely to grow ever larger.
At the moment upload times are around 24 hours and crucially maybe not quite as stringent as A.Net.
Take a look see what you think,and I'm not sure but I think they could use a few more screeners.

I'd like to see some comments why people upload to A.Net anyway.

Interesting question. Speaking as someone who has been banned from uploading to the site several times, I will continue to upload there, no question about it. No other website out there gives your aircraft pictures attention like A.net does. Magazines, advertising agencies, large companies all use it to find decent aircraft images. I have made a four-figure sum of money over the years from having my pictures on there and that extra money goes a long way towards buying camera gear, going on trips or just funding a few pints down the pub. The screeners get some harsh criticism, but it is their website and no-one is entitled to have their images on there, but if you want to sell or just get your aviation pictures noticed, A.net is certainly the place to do it.

Also, the criticism and "strict" guidelines for submissions surely only go toward making people progress and improve their photos.

[tom177]

They are less strict the older the image is. Only way to see is to give it a try!

[Wallace]

Digital noise = "grain." Poor terminology.
A noise reduction program may be a better idea, my own favourite it Topaz De-noise. The cause of the noise may be over magnification, high ISO or sharpening a plain blue sky (or the like) USM is not a good method for sharpening.

[Ben Montgomery]

Rejected for soft and grainy?

[Mike]

Ben, if it was a shot of some passenger seats or an A380 toilet then it would get accepted straight away - A.net seem to have different rules for things.

Each screener seems to have different ideas too, nothing wrong with your shot.

[The Phantom]

Ben, if it was a shot of some passenger seats or an A380 toilet then it would get accepted straight away

[Wallace]

Digital noise is visible in the bottom right hand corner of that Mig photo.

Few seem to understand that sharpening is one of the causes of noise in photos, USM sharpening tries to enhance contrast differences in the subtle variations in the sky and hence create noise.

Only sharpening the aircraft through a layer mask or using two versions of the same picture, one with noise reduction, the other sharpened, revealed through a layer mask or even something like High Pass Filter sharpening will all help.
High Pass with the option of using a layer mask is my personal favourite these days.

[beefsteak]

Wallace, I don't suppose you feel like nipping round here and putting this thicko to rights over a few issues I have re using elements !!...............LOL

[Ben Montgomery]

Digital noise is visible in the bottom right hand corner of that Mig photo.

Few seem to understand that sharpening is one of the causes of noise in photos, USM sharpening tries to enhance contrast differences in the subtle variations in the sky and hence create noise.

Only sharpening the aircraft through a layer mask or using two versions of the same picture, one with noise reduction, the other sharpened, revealed through a layer mask or even something like High Pass Filter sharpening will all help.
High Pass with the option of using a layer mask is my personal favourite these days.

On the aircraft itself, or in the sky?

I've given High-Pass a go and loved it - but I didn't see too much difference from using USM with a very small radius.

[Ben Montgomery]

OK, I've changed my mind. Having spent much more time editing it, and really being careful, I've managed to pull it out some more:

Original rejected:



New:



Yes/No?

[Richard B]

Resubmit the new edit, only problem is that the amount
of Riat shots being uploaded and all looking the same.
Anet will be very choosey.

[SteveS]

To be honest Ben, the first is an AWESOME shot. I've given up with A.Net as they're so far up their own arses they need breathing equipment. I can understand only wanting technically very good shots, but some of the stuff they reject is ridiculous.

[Ben Montgomery]

At the moment for me it's not so much about getting them onto the site, but learning the editing technique for the new camera and lens - it's somewhat different to what I used to do, and I think editing for a database is one way to "check" whether you are making progress. I know people will say that you are just learning how to edit for A.net rather than editing a photo - but the basics like contrast, sharpening (really its sharpening for me) are all there.

[six2]

To be honest Ben, the first is an AWESOME shot. I've given up with A.Net as they're so far up their own arses they need breathing equipment. I can understand only wanting technically very good shots, but some of the stuff they reject is ridiculous.

could not agree any more. im not a big poster on here but i read alot an can never understand why people waste there time posting to that site. BEN you should be proud of the shots they are birll, they put mine to shame with ease

[Mike]

This is what you're up against Ben - Union jack pillows !!!

http://www.airliners.net/photo/British- ... 6f2cb8a013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Taken with a fish-eye lens, loads of skill involved in that shot then.

[Mike]

Another exciting shot by the same guy.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/British- ... 6f2cb8a013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[C24]

Ben,

I would find it useful/informative if you could show the same shot, straight from the camera, as a jpeg file.

[Blue Diamond]

This is what you're up against Ben - Union jack pillows !!!

http://www.airliners.net/photo/British- ... 6f2cb8a013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Taken with a fish-eye lens, loads of skill involved in that shot then.

Typical camera club type shot. The more pretentious it is, the more they like it.

[blakey]

Ben,

straight from the camera, as a jpeg file.

Thats like asking a woman to go out without make up on lol

[Ben Montgomery]

Ben,

I would find it useful/informative if you could show the same shot, straight from the camera, as a jpeg file.

Not a problem! Theedited shot above is a slight crop of the original, but easily handled by the 7D - especially when shooting RAW.

Admittedly, at 1200px it's difficult to see what the original really looks like.



Ben