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Lossiemouth c1970

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daggerfan
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Lossiemouth c1970

Post by daggerfan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:45 pm

Hello All. Some pics from Lossie in 1970, give or take a year or two.

Apologies in advance for the dubious quality of some of them. As a poor schoolboy at the time I couldn't afford a decent camera. Most of these were taken on a Franka Solida I, an old beast with a fold-out bellows lens and a top shutter speed of 1/200th sec, taking 12 exposures on 120 film. I bought the camera from a classmate for the princely sum of £2! Alas the bellows weren't totally light-proof, resulting in the left side of some shots being differently exposed to the right side. But as a friend of mine often says, a cr*p photo it better than no photo!

I've included a couple of "little Northrops" for Paddyboy.

Image013_Buccaneer S2_XV35-_E104_5370_TP2 by Nikn Mann, on Flickr

Image015_EA-3B_5270_FS1 by Nikn Mann, on Flickr

Image042_Shackleton MR3_Q_5315_FS2 by Nikn Mann, on Flickr

Image038_S-2A_170_5299_FP2 by Nikn Mann, on Flickr

Image018_F-5B_89091_5300_FP2 by Nikn Mann, on Flickr

Image017_F-5A_21175_5298_FP2 by Nikn Mann, on Flickr

Image012_C-47_K-683_5301_FP2 by Nikn Mann, on Flickr

Image009_Belfast C1_XR362_5306_TS2 by Nikn Mann, on Flickr

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by iainpeden » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:08 pm

Really interesting shots.
Any idea about the USAF F-5s; I am sure I have never seen reference to the USAF having As or Bs (especially in SEA camo) in Europe let alone in the UK. Over to Graham L I suspect.

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by Mike » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:15 pm

Great stuff, I just love these old shots. :thumb:
The F-5B is presumably 68-9091 on delivery to Iran but was the F-5A 21175 already wearing it's Iranian serial?
Or am I completely talking nonsense? :lol:

EDIT :- Aha!!! 67-21175 went to South Vietnam :- http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/f5_2.html
68-9091 is listed here as going to Iran :- http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/1968.html
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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by daggerfan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:22 pm

These were on delivery to Iran. I saw around 100 delivered through Lossie marked with the star and bar and USAF serials, though most of those went to Turkey and Greece. The exotic camo ones though we're going further afield! F-5A 21175 is its USAF serial. I believe it subsequently was sold to South Vietnam.

Edit: Sorry for repeating info Mike. You were in before I had my reply posted!

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by honest man » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:39 pm

Brilliant ,some lovely stuff there

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by daggerfan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:49 pm

honest man wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:39 pm
Brilliant ,some lovely stuff there
Thank you honest man. Yes, exciting and interesting times back then. A DSLR would have been a godsend!

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by eLaReF » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:22 pm

daggerfan wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:49 pm
A DSLR would have been a godsend!
I've said that many times!!!

Recognise the odd pill-box shot there.
The problem I had taking pics there was that they were very close and going quite quickly, so, as you panned, the nose of the aircraft was going at a different speed from the back & with my primitive camera, I never got both sharp at the same time - even the Sea Princes!

This pair from '67

ImageXR767 English Electric Lightning F.6 msn 95232 by eLaReF, on Flickr

ImageXG731 De Havilland Sea Venom FAW.22 680/LM by eLaReF, on Flickr
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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by daggerfan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:58 pm

I know exactly what you mean eLaReF. That was the downside of working only with the equivalent of a standard lens. Step further back and the subject was tiny in the frame.

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by eLaReF » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:34 pm

40mm Fixed Lens Rangefinder!

ImageRank-Aldis Mamiya 3B Rangefinder Camera by eLaReF, on Flickr

Supreme example though was this one - I panned on the 1st Bucc!

Image4 Ship Buccanneer pass - Unintended effect by eLaReF, on Flickr
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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by Mike » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:43 pm

My first camera was an Agfa Rapid thingy that just had a bright and dark light adjustment switch, Mother insisted on using slide film as it was much cheaper to get developed. This was 54 years ago!

One of the shots that I took with it, please excuse the awful quality...............

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And then my Pentax ME Super came along, bought for £20 from Bruce a few years later who was a Lossie spotter, he was a security man at Baxter's in Fochabers but moved back South in around 1990.

One of the first shots that I took with it................

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by F3 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:57 pm

Just one word for the above pic - FANTASTIC! What a first attempt. Have to say tho' you had some pretty decent subject matter.

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by Thunder » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:59 am

An AGM-12’Bullpup’ on a Bucc, that’s a new one on me??

If only I was ten years older, by the time I started spotting at Lossie a lot of the exotic stuff had passed, although it was still pretty good up until the late nineties. The Balkan conflicts and the ‘Twin Towers’ killed it.

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by eLaReF » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:39 am

Thunder wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:59 am
If only I was ten years older
I think we've all said that at some time, with the addition of DSLR's having been invented at the same time.
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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by paddyboy » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:02 am

Any set with gorgeous little Northrops gets my vote :Wow:

Thanks for posting :thumbs:

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by Imac » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:29 pm

What memories for us oldies :roll: :clap: There are some nice bits of kit about in these modern times, but I count myself lucky to have followed our amazing hobby through from a young lad in the sixties and to have seen so many types :roll: :thumbs: Thanks for sharing those memories :thumb:

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by Seahawk 11 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:41 pm

I just love these photos, it was a great time to be spotting,

Rob

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by DanBeeden » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:40 am

Great shots but love those Skywarriors - stunning!

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by mikee115 » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:24 pm

Cracking set. Someone needs to set up a first camera and photos thread.

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by lastcornishman » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:34 am

The Dutch Tracker, fabulous little aircraft, saw so many at St Mawgan, never got a photo, shameful!.

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Re: Lossiemouth c1970

Post by Ross Forsyth » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:11 pm

Another super set of images

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