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St.Mawgan International Air Day: 6th August 1975 (Pic. Heavy)

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Re: St.Mawgan International Air Day: 6th August 1975 (Pic. Heavy)

Post by ST24 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:52 pm

iainpeden wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:21 pm
Phantom fanatic wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:16 pm
The green replacing the tan was the start of the 'European one' camo scheme, the lighter green being replaced later with a dark green.
Disagree with that. First, in Euro 1 (lizard) the tan was replaced by a dark gray ( and that’s another story) not green; second, that green was seen on only a few a/c, including in PACAF, but usually in a partial respray and often on part panels or the fin with the rudder unrespayed. Consequently you had a/c with the two official greens, tan and that green; fairly sure there are pictures of that Phantom with tan on the other side. EDIT. In fact if you look at the fin you can still see tan under the LN tail code.

There’s a complete thread on Britmodeller about it if I can find the link.
A handful of LN Phantoms received the light green to replace tan as a camo experiment, 65-0721 was another example, that too had the "tan patch" by the LN code. It was not adopted.

Just came across these, superb set as usual..!

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Re: St.Mawgan International Air Day: 6th August 1975 (Pic. Heavy)

Post by iainpeden » Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:58 am

ST24 wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:52 pm
iainpeden wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:21 pm
Phantom fanatic wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:16 pm
The green replacing the tan was the start of the 'European one' camo scheme, the lighter green being replaced later with a dark green.
Disagree with that. First, in Euro 1 (lizard) the tan was replaced by a dark gray ( and that’s another story) not green; second, that green was seen on only a few a/c, including in PACAF, but usually in a partial respray and often on part panels or the fin with the rudder unrespayed. Consequently you had a/c with the two official greens, tan and that green; fairly sure there are pictures of that Phantom with tan on the other side. EDIT. In fact if you look at the fin you can still see tan under the LN tail code.

There’s a complete thread on Britmodeller about it if I can find the link.
A handful of LN Phantoms received the light green to replace tan as a camo experiment, 65-0721 was another example, that too had the "tan patch" by the LN code. It was not adopted.

Just came across these, superb set as usual..!
Sorry, it wasn't a camo experiment, just either a dodgy paint mix or mislabelled batch of tins. If it was an experiment to change the tan to another light/medium green then the whole tan section would have been painted - not just a few patches. As I said previously the patches were seen across a variety of a/c (F-111 & A-7) and across the USAF inc.PACAF.

On Britmodeller a few years ago there was a major thread on this with definitive information - I have reposted the question there and will report back asap.

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Re: St.Mawgan International Air Day: 6th August 1975 (Pic. Heavy)

Post by iainpeden » Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:48 am

OK, this is a bit off thread but my obsession with Phantoms led me to wanting to get the idea that the dodgy green on those Tooms wasn't a camo experiment so I did some checking with fellow modellers.

This photo shows a stateside based one (at Luke AFB) - and gives the explanation.

https://www.airliners.net/photo/USA-Air ... II/1221425

Here's the whole Britmodeller thread.

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/ind ... -greentan/

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Re: St.Mawgan International Air Day: 6th August 1975 (Pic. Heavy)

Post by MikeH » Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:32 am

iainpeden wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:48 am
OK, this is a bit off thread but my obsession with Phantoms led me to wanting to get the idea that the dodgy green on those Tooms wasn't a camo experiment so I did some checking with fellow modellers.

This photo shows a stateside based one (at Luke AFB) - and gives the explanation.

https://www.airliners.net/photo/USA-Air ... II/1221425
Coincidentally I took this photo of that same F-4D, 63-7584 on the 25th of September 1979 after they had repainted it with the correct colour.

ImageF-4C-63-7584-Luke-25SE79 by Michael Hall, on Flickr

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Re: St.Mawgan International Air Day: 6th August 1975 (Pic. Heavy)

Post by SW Sky Blue » Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:21 am

Not sure how I missed this post at the time, but glad I've seen it now...Fabulous stuff :thumbs:

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