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NMUSAF Outside

Warbirds, Replicas and Nostalgic photos in here please.
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iainpeden
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NMUSAF Outside

Post by iainpeden » Sun Oct 02, 2022 3:16 pm

The last ones from NMUSAF (until I go again).

There are a number of aircraft outside – mainly some larger ones they haven’t got under cover. Apparently there are discussions about adding another building – problematic because there needs to be clearance for the runway – or extending some of the other buildings. The fourth gallery (opened in 2016) cost $48m.

The historical buildings are interesting, but neither was open; the Nissan huts came from Debden. It was harder to get information about the control tower; while it contains artefacts, furniture etc. from England I couldn’t get a definitive answer about whether the building itself had also been brought over or a copy built.

There’s a large, wooded, area contain many memorials, which I wish I had time to photograph. The one pictured is a memorial to the Mighty 8Th.

Next stop, Pax River and (nearly) everything in FS36440 and white.

ImageIMG_6976 by Iain Peden, on Flickr

ImageIMG_6977 by Iain Peden, on Flickr

ImageIMG_6978 by Iain Peden, on Flickr

ImageIMG_6979 by Iain Peden, on Flickr

ImageIMG_6980 by Iain Peden, on Flickr

ImageIMG_6982 by Iain Peden, on Flickr

ImageIMG_6983 by Iain Peden, on Flickr
This is a view across the airfield to the restoration centre; the tri-motor is a Northrop YC-125 Raider (the only other survivor being at Pima)

ImageIMG_6984 by Iain Peden, on Flickr

ImageIMG_6986 by Iain Peden, on Flickr

ImageIMG_6989 by Iain Peden, on Flickr

ImageIMG_6990 by Iain Peden, on Flickr

ImageIMG_7045 by Iain Peden, on Flickr

ImageIMG_7046 by Iain Peden, on Flickr

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Re: NMUSAF Outside

Post by Mustang531 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:58 pm

Thanks Iain, some great shots once again. Now is it an EC-135 or a C-18 that's preserved? The Convair looks interesting. I did read somewhere that a control tower was carefully dismantled at an old USAAF base in the UK and shipped over to the USA, maybe this is it. I'm sure it could be googled.

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Re: NMUSAF Outside

Post by Nighthawke » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:15 pm

The official website says it is a reproduction:

https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit ... rol-tower/

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Re: NMUSAF Outside

Post by paddyboy » Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:24 am

Hi Iain :P

Another interesting set :thumbs:

Nos. 5 & 6 look anything but aerodynamic :lol:

Thanks for posting :thumb:

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Re: NMUSAF Outside

Post by raptor9 » Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:28 am

Greatly enjoyed those Iain. Many thanks for them all. My late friend was lucky enough to photograph the XB70 out side in the sunshine. Enjoy the rest of the trip. We will!!. Regards, John.

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Re: NMUSAF Outside

Post by iainpeden » Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:13 am

Mustang531 wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:58 pm
Thanks Iain, some great shots once again. Now is it an EC-135 or a C-18 that's preserved? The Convair looks interesting. I did read somewhere that a control tower was carefully dismantled at an old USAAF base in the UK and shipped over to the USA, maybe this is it. I'm sure it could be googled.
The official map says EC-135E.

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Re: NMUSAF Outside

Post by Supra » Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:36 am

These are great shots of changed/added items at this excellent museum. Last time I went the XB-70 was still outside & easily pictured from all angles! The designation of 135 variants has always been a mystery to me, but for me this one 'Bird of Prey' has always been an EC-18 (ex 452nd Flight Test Squadron at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif) :unsure:
But then again I've seen it noted as an EC-135E ARIA. (Advanced Range Instrumentation Aircraft), so who knows? :S

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Re: NMUSAF Outside

Post by Lunespotter » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:47 pm

There is a WWII Control Tower that was moved brick by brick, from the UK, at the Virginia Beach Military Aviation Museum. When visited three years ago it was being reassembled. Our otherwise very knowledgeable guide wasn’t sure exactly where it came from.

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Re: NMUSAF Outside

Post by teeonefixer » Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:07 pm

Fabulous set of photos and storyline, thanks (some changes since I went in 1992)
Lunespotter wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:47 pm
There is a WWII Control Tower that was moved brick by brick, from the UK, at the Virginia Beach Military Aviation Museum. When visited three years ago it was being reassembled. Our otherwise very knowledgeable guide wasn’t sure exactly where it came from.
It came from RAF Goxhill on the south bank of the Humber. In the early days of USAAC operations there was the need to acclimatise US fighter pilots to British weather and crowded skies

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Re: NMUSAF Outside

Post by Malcolm » Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:32 pm

teeonefixer wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:07 pm
Fabulous set of photos and storyline, thanks (some changes since I went in 1992)
Lunespotter wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:47 pm
There is a WWII Control Tower that was moved brick by brick, from the UK, at the Virginia Beach Military Aviation Museum. When visited three years ago it was being reassembled. Our otherwise very knowledgeable guide wasn’t sure exactly where it came from.
It came from RAF Goxhill on the south bank of the Humber. In the early days of USAAC operations there was the need to acclimatise US fighter pilots to British weather and crowded skies
I visited 2 weeks ago - it's now complete and open to visitors. It's not in the main museum though - you have to go on the guided tour part to the active end of the airfield, together with the Cottebus and WW1 hangar.

The guide seemed concerned that us Brits would be upset that they had "stolen" part of UK history. From my point of view (FWIW) there were literally hundreds of WW2 control towers that could have been preserved but were left to go to ruin. Personally I'm happy that someone cares enough to preserve at least one - even if it is on the other side of the pond.

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Re: NMUSAF Outside

Post by teeonefixer » Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:36 am

Malcolm wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:32 pm

I visited 2 weeks ago - it's now complete and open to visitors. It's not in the main museum though - you have to go on the guided tour part to the active end of the airfield, together with the Cottebus and WW1 hangar.

The guide seemed concerned that us Brits would be upset that they had "stolen" part of UK history. From my point of view (FWIW) there were literally hundreds of WW2 control towers that could have been preserved but were left to go to ruin. Personally I'm happy that someone cares enough to preserve at least one - even if it is on the other side of the pond.
I agree Malcolm, good to see it preserved as it is an important part of their history and also the links between us.

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