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3Greens
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Waddington 'death row'

Post by 3Greens » Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:01 pm

Thankfully the 'Mad Axeman' had not yet cometh by my visit on 24th August. Four of the Sentinels and the most recent operational E-3s are still all parked out looking complete. The Sentinels internally are probably a different story but there is still the usual external protection on them ready for spares recovery. I believe the contract calls for them to be dismantled 'on site'
The E-3s do have ground power and air con units with them with ZH101 and ZH106 in Echo dispersal at the southern end of the runway, while ZH102 was parked in the Sentry dispersal/compound outside of the main hangar.
ZH105 has been stood out as a hulk for many years on Delta dispersal and the blue notice adjacent to the crew entry door reads 'WEST - Waddington Emergency Synthetic Trainer'
It was unfortunately a grey day but here's just a few shots of how I want to remember them.

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ZJ692 and ZJ691 in the background
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E-3 ZH107 in 54 Sqdn's 100th Anniversary fin marks is parked on Charlie minus dome with also Sentinel ZJ693 parked behind.
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This is the future with just arrived Sky Guardian UAV parked in a fenced compound adjacent to the RC135.
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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by Tally-ho » Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:32 pm

You mention ZH102, should that not be a reference to ZH103?

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by paddyboy » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:20 am

Hi Keith :P

That is one sad post :'(

Great record of a waste of taxpayers money though :whistle:

Thanks for posting :thumbs:

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by hawgwash » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:00 am

Oh that is so depressing but thanks so much for sharing...
Regards,

Matt Ellis
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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by 3Greens » Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:13 am

Tally-ho wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:32 pm
You mention ZH102, should that not be a reference to ZH103?
My log has ZH102 parked outside the hangar. ZH103 which arrived back from final ops at Akrotiri on 2nd August and it wasn't outside so assumed to have replaced ZH102 in the hangar.
With the five Sentinels the three E-3's due for RTP on site are ZH102, ZH105 and ZH107.
There is a parade planned for 28th September to mark 30 years of the E-3D operations so hopefully there might just be a flypast of ZH101 :S
paddyboy wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:20 am
Hi Keith :P

That is one sad post :'(
Great record of a waste of taxpayers money though :whistle:
Thanks for posting :thumbs:

Paddyboy :clap:
Indeed Patrick a sad sight. Not sure what will happen to that massive hangar that will be left as the Wedgetails are to have a new facility up at Lossie.

Best regards
Keith (3Greens)

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by Tally-ho » Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:17 am

Thank you for the response. :thumb:

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by SeaFuryFan » Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:18 pm

3Greens wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:13 am
Tally-ho wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:32 pm
You mention ZH102, should that not be a reference to ZH103?
My log has ZH102 parked outside the hangar. ZH103 which arrived back from final ops at Akrotiri on 2nd August and it wasn't outside so assumed to have replaced ZH102 in the hangar.
With the five Sentinels the three E-3's due for RTP on site are ZH102, ZH105 and ZH107.
There is a parade planned for 28th September to mark 30 years of the E-3D operations so hopefully there might just be a flypast of ZH101 :S
paddyboy wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:20 am
Hi Keith :P

That is one sad post :'(
Great record of a waste of taxpayers money though :whistle:
Thanks for posting :thumbs:

Paddyboy :clap:
Indeed Patrick a sad sight. Not sure what will happen to that massive hangar that will be left as the Wedgetails are to have a new facility up at Lossie.

Best regards
Keith (3Greens)
HHA still looking for hangar space when Scampton closes ??

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by paddyboy » Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:11 pm

Hi Keith :P

It will be far more than scandalous if that huge hangar does NOT get used :grr:

Thanks again for the post :thumbs:

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by Andy Marden » Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:21 pm

That hangar will be used by the Red Arrows

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by 3Greens » Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:20 am

Andy Marden wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:21 pm
That hangar will be used by the Red Arrows
Well there will be plenty of clearance when they put the Hawks away at night, they had just better be careful that they don't lose them in the corners :lol:

E-3D ZH101 not dead quite yet ! - it has departed Waddington this morning out towards Norwich for an air test c/s "SOLEX01" - see OTT section for more.

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by Vulture 01 » Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:57 pm

Just thought of a great use for the former E3 hangar. With the Reds moving in, let's convert them to fly radio control jets. Use the hangar for practice flight.......
Knowing the RAF they'll pull it down and build an office block there

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by dragonchaser » Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:32 pm

Have to agree it’s a very sad sight, surely the Globals have a very long life left yet.

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by Cyberfox » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:02 pm

What a waste. Why are those reasonably new Sentinels not deemed effective anymore?

Is their capability now taken over by drones and/or satellites?

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by twinstar » Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:54 am

I wouldnt call the Sentinel reasonably new, remember these have been in service for 16 years and the Sentry for 30 plus years. As with anything electronic the equipment will be at the end of its useable life.
A massive investment would be needed to keep these airborne which in the current climate isnt viable.
We havent lost the Sentry capability as we are still a member of the NATO AEW force and can call on the use of those. The NATO E-3 have slso been upgraded to a standard far superior to the RAF ones.

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by Davef68 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:42 am

Cyberfox wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:02 pm
What a waste. Why are those reasonably new Sentinels not deemed effective anymore?
Their equipment is massively out of date - they have had no investment over the last 10 years as their OSD date was always just a few years away. (think about how your phone has changed since 2008!)

It would take a huge investment to bring them up to modern or future standards. Not economic to convert them back to other roles either.

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Re: Waddington 'death row'

Post by Cyberfox » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:17 pm

God I despise drones.

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