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Star of Waddington

Post by stevejb » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:32 pm

OK, so its another Cobra Warrior thread, but this time it's covering THE star - the Israeli 707 tanker. Taken on Monday, it launched into a dull grey overcast sky, although the picture makes the conditions look a lot better then they actually were.

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Recovering via a pass at RAF Marham, it arrived overhead Waddington as the F15s arrived back giving a good view of the underside,

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After all the fast jets had landed it then came in on a long approach

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If you've got this far, here are a couple of bonus F15 shots and an Italian Typhoon breaking into the circuit.

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Thanks for looking, comments and criticisms welcome

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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by Yammer » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:47 pm

Brilliant photos of the old KC707 - top draw aircraft and images
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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by paddyboy » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:38 am

Hi Steve :P

Bet that 707 sounded awesome :thumbs:

Thanks for posting :thumb:

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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by BOLLO » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:09 am

You want to get ip there today for the other one arriving.
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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by matt e » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:20 am

nice set,especially #1

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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by Freeman Lowell » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:31 am

Yes, nice photos.
Does anyone know what the circular ports ahead of the wing roots are for?
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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by CHINOOKER » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:42 am

Think the ports are possibly "Negative Pressure" inlet ports....The aircraft was originally built as a passenger aircraft,so differs from the KC135 conversions etc in this regard!.....The red outline around the ports probably has a "do not cover/block this port" decal on or adjacent to it if viewed close up!. However could well be proved wrong on this,only a closer view/photo will give a definitive answer

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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by Freeman Lowell » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:08 pm

A very plausible suggestion, but '264' doesn't appear to have these and won't be looking to do overshoots at Marham and Warton.
Are we sure '272' isn't taking holiday snaps?
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Post by T_J » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:23 pm

Freeman Lowell wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:08 pm
A very plausible suggestion, but '264' doesn't appear to have these and won't be looking to do overshoots at Marham and Warton.
Are we sure '272' isn't taking holiday snaps?
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They do look like camera ports.

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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by Supra » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:42 am

Not that old 'smoke & mirrors' routine? Send a second tanker 707 covered in aerials (264) whilst all the time the alleged '272' is harmlessly doing multiple random visits to interesting locations for holiday snaps! :ninja:
Paranoid?...not really, well they didn't shoot an approach into Linton did they? :whistle: ;)

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Post by TAFFEVANS » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:55 am

Supra wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:42 am
Not that old 'smoke & mirrors' routine? Send a second tanker 707 covered in aerials (264) whilst all the time the alleged '272' is harmlessly doing multiple random visits to interesting locations for holiday snaps! :ninja:
Paranoid?...not really, well they didn't shoot an approach into Linton did they? :whistle: ;)
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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by Supra » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:26 am

Good point! Those Special Op's Tucano's are so yesterday Tech' too! ;)

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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by Vulcanone » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:41 am

Hardly likely they need anything, the IDF/AF F-35s are probably Light years better than ours gadgets wise... Cloaking device on...

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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by T_J » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:43 pm

Looking back the history of 272 it was in service with Dubai Air Wing - United Arab Emirates as A6-HRM

You can see that the feature is present on this 1991 image.

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/58005

Feature not present when in service with British Caledonian.

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/6222296

So it appears that the fit was made when it was in service with the United Arab Emirates.

http://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDos ... rial=53965

Starboard side of UAE A6-HRM showing the feature in 1993.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... 717543.jpg

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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by JAD01 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:19 pm

What a great aircraft the B707 was/is, super post.

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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by CHINOOKER » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:18 pm

Regarding my earlier post re 272, I showed a colleague at work who worked on B707s many eons ago and he believes that the "negative pressure port",i spoke of earlier is the ovoid one between the nose gear and the port in question!....think you can make out the area markings and decals in T_J's close up photo. With regard the port in question,it does have a large doubler/strengthening plate around it,so is definately some form of modification...either a viewing window or photo port. Looking at the original underside photo,it looks as both ports may be offset to each other?,although this could be down to camera angle/aircraft attitude.
Both ports are located in the underfloor cargo compartment,towards the rear bulkhead of that compartment....space there was not at a premium,so anyone in there would at best be kneeling/laying down. One thing we noticed,but cannot work out are the other three smaller ports,(outlined in red),below the main deck cargo door!. Aircraft has sustained some impact damage at one time or another,as that is some "scab patch" in the lower belly!
With regard to 272 being some sort of "covert spy plane",then surely this would have been known about for some time by our security forces....must be someone out there who must have had a closer look whist the aircraft was on the ground. Just my take on a rather interesting bit of kit!

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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by Blackcat1 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:52 pm

Can't beat a smokey 707! Other than a Smokey Phantom 😂
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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by Sea_Harrier_FA2 » Sat May 16, 2020 4:23 pm

Regarding 264, this was in a charcoal grey colour in Jan 2018, does anyone know when it was repainted back to white?
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Re: Star of Waddington

Post by Dave934 » Sat May 16, 2020 4:29 pm

And the bump of the year award goes to.....

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