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by turmo
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:07 am
Forum: RIAT
Topic: RIAT 2018 ARRIVALS
Replies: 302
Views: 92169

Re: RIAT 2018 ARRIVALS

Due: 0900 King Air RAF 0920 Couteau Dela 0930 Herk Jordan 0950 P-8 1000 Tecnam 1024 Do-228 RNLAF 1030 PA28 1034 Rafale AdlA 1038 Herk Poland 1116 M346 1120 Tornado Luftwaffe 1200 Gripen Sweden 1210 Jordanian Falcons 1216 PC21 1218 Xingu 1220 E-6 1230 Herk Oman 1300 F-16 Poland 1304 KC-135 USAF 1310 ...
by turmo
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:42 pm
Forum: RIAT
Topic: RIAT 2018 ARRIVALS
Replies: 302
Views: 92169

Re: RIAT 2018 ARRIVALS

I only caught six Aguila serials, in landing sequence:

79-27
79-13
74-17
79-38
79-31
79-29
by turmo
Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: RIAT
Topic: RIAT 2018 ARRIVALS
Replies: 302
Views: 92169

Re: RIAT 2018 ARRIVALS

RAF Herk was 887 though barely legible through the heat shimmer :(
by turmo
Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: RIAT
Topic: RIAT 2018 ARRIVALS
Replies: 302
Views: 92169

Re: RIAT 2018 ARRIVALS

G550 N550GA 15:45

EC35 ZM530 15:50
by turmo
Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:41 am
Forum: RIAT
Topic: RIAT 2018 ARRIVALS
Replies: 302
Views: 92169

Re: RIAT 2018 ARRIVALS

Greek F-16s arrived 12:35

P&V West not particularly busy but the staff had run out of movements sheets by 12:00 so we're just standing here wondering what's going to turn up.
by turmo
Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:50 am
Forum: RIAT
Topic: RIAT 2018 ARRIVALS
Replies: 302
Views: 92169

Re: RIAT 2018 ARRIVALS

https://threshold.aero/data/RIAT18-Live-Arrivals Cheres, I'll keep an eye on that page. However from my OCD perspective there are some odd attempts at over-precision in that list. For example Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 Douglas C-47A Dakota C.3 It's just a Douglas Dakota C.Mk.3 with the RAF. No need f...
by turmo
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:08 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Happy Birthday C-5 50 YRS OLD
Replies: 12
Views: 3586

Re: Happy Birthday C-5 50 YRS OLD

The RAF were offered a handful in the 1970s, but declined due to the run-down of Asian bases. Australia also considered the Galaxy to support their ops in Vietnam, and the Luftwaffe was interested but was blocked by the US State Department!
by turmo
Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:27 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: General Atomics’ owned MQ-9B crossing the Atlantic to attend RIAT
Replies: 41
Views: 11270

Re: General Atomics’ owned MQ-9B crossing the Atlantic to attend RIAT

The PR around this is curious, lots of conditional statements. There's nothing novel about the planned flight; the bigger Global Hawk UAV autonomously crossed the Atlantic and Pacific oceans over a decade ago. It is routinely used by NASA for hurricane-following flights out over the Atlantic. Yes it...
by turmo
Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: How many military aviation enthusiasts in the UK?
Replies: 19
Views: 5173

Re: How many military aviation enthusiasts in the UK?

The problem with asking the public to agree on this sort of thing is "Boaty McBoatface". Which wasn't a public suggestion, it was proposed by one of the staff. The fact that it became so popular probably inidicates something about the blandness of the 'approved' options. Quick, can you remember wha...
by turmo
Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:57 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: 100 year anniversary models
Replies: 7
Views: 3067

Re: 100 year anniversary models

PeteHemsley wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:00 am
Surely the chipmunk is the longest serving RAF aircraft? (Without doing a Google search)
Nearly! The Harvard was in roundels from 1938 to 2016 ( latterly with ETPS ) and there's still one going with the RNHF.
by turmo
Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:53 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: New Zealand to buy P-8As
Replies: 1
Views: 1146

Re: New Zealand to buy P-8As

Not really a surprise given the advantages of commonality with Australia. But boring all the same.

Once Boeing got the P-8 into the FMS program it became the default choice for all aligned nations.
by turmo
Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:07 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Least favourite aircraft?
Replies: 90
Views: 24396

Re: Least favourite aircraft?

Mine has to be the Alpha Jet slow and boring, and why buy one when you could have bought a Bae Hawk. A321 Compare the airframe of an Alpha Jet ( smooth and clean, only flying surfaces sticking-out ) and a mid-80s+ Hawk ( strakes and smurfs and vortex generators all over the place ) and you'll get p...
by turmo
Thu May 24, 2018 6:08 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: RAF wants to replace E3D
Replies: 69
Views: 24848

Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Barely 30 years, lol, assume you’re joking there. Let’s face it 30 years is a decent airframe life/pressurisation cycles life, it’s not dissimilar in the airline business. Do you still drive your car from 30 years ago and daily? Airlines hammer their aircraft, target utilisation is often 13 to 16 h...
by turmo
Thu May 24, 2018 5:58 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Reds
Replies: 11
Views: 3561

Re: Reds

PDA once again, tremendous achievement considering the year they have had The PDA is issued by RAF officers. Do people really think the RAF would refuse to certify the Red Arrows...? In the worst case they might have to make some tweaks to their routine and reapply but it's not as if the PDA is a o...
by turmo
Tue May 22, 2018 9:38 am
Forum: RIAT
Topic: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread
Replies: 801
Views: 260811

Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

But find me an airshow that is on the level that RIAT is (In the UK) and none come close. With ongoing operations etc it's great what we can get. But you can't please 'em all. Don't like it, don't go, is my simple saying. Yes I think that's what I said too. And people are following that advice. Goi...
by turmo
Fri May 18, 2018 9:18 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: US state dept approves C-130J sale to Germany
Replies: 8
Views: 3643

Re: US state dept approves C-130J sale to Germany

Hard to believe that six C-130Js can account for $1.4 billion ( even considering spares and support ). But that's the cost of a monopoly option I suppose, the A400 is in a category above and the C-27 much smaller. I think we'll look back on the A400 in 20 years time and agree that it was too big for...
by turmo
Fri May 11, 2018 1:55 pm
Forum: RIAT
Topic: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread
Replies: 801
Views: 260811

Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

DBH do a fantastic job year in year out, and it is easy for people to lump the blame onto them when in fact it's other Air Arms and/or countries that block these things happening Well they certainly do a 'job' but perhaps I'm too old and cynical to deploy the superlatives. They run an efficient air...
by turmo
Sun May 06, 2018 8:34 pm
Forum: RIAT
Topic: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread
Replies: 801
Views: 260811

Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Thanks, is there anything wrong with me classing the C-130 as a heavy? It's not that big an aircraft, MTOW is within a tonne of an A320. Its wake turbulence doesn't qualify it as such either, it is Medium from memory. But this isn't a law court so you can call it whatever you like :) Incidentally w...
by turmo
Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:07 am
Forum: RIAT
Topic: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread
Replies: 801
Views: 260811

Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Seahornet1 wrote:
Does that help...?
I think he was asking whether the Whirlwind can fly or will be trucked-in. I believe it will fly in and out.
by turmo
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: RIAT
Topic: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread
Replies: 801
Views: 260811

Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Saturday usually sells-out for general admission ( or at least has done so since I started going in 2013 ) but not Friday or Sunday. It will be interesting to see how Friday full-show sells this year, it's a challenge as most families would have to take leave from work to attend. Selfishly I hope it...

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