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by turmo
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:08 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: what happens to old/obsolete missiles?
Replies: 8
Views: 1415

Re: what happens to old/obsolete missiles?

The airframe and control components can be salvaged

The solid motors are usually disposed of by controlled burning

Electronics and seeker - I don't know, the white-coated fairies dealt with that stuff.
by turmo
Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:05 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: RAF and the DDay celebrations
Replies: 34
Views: 3526

Re: RAF and the DDay celebrations

It's not lack of money that's a problem, a few million can always be found when the right people are behind an idea. The issue is lack of top-down interest.

If an ACM wanted invasion stripes on a dozen Typhoons, invasion stripes would be painted.
by turmo
Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: August 1955. 707 barrel rolls
Replies: 16
Views: 1794

Re: August 1955. 707 barrel rolls

Sorry to be pedantic, but it wasn't a 707, it was the Boeing Dash 80, which led to the KC135. The 707 while visibly similar is a quite different aircraft with a wider fuselage diameter. And nor was it a barrel roll. A messy aileron-roll, perhaps. Even Tex wasn't sure how to describe it, which sugge...
by turmo
Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:28 pm
Forum: RIAT
Topic: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread
Replies: 1395
Views: 133331

Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Seeing an update confirming that four Royal Navy aircraft will attend the static park is great news, however seeing a comment from yourself that just says "Meh" is rather sad, what would you say after RIAT if the Royal Navy hadn't bothered attending at all? Frankly if they'd skipped RIAT and just p...
by turmo
Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:27 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Apache display returns for 2019.
Replies: 10
Views: 1787

Re: Apache display returns for 2019.

Now imagine if there was a simultaneous Pantsir Role Demo. Might discourage some of the infantile rah-rah-rake-em-with-30mm commentary. "The Pantsir seems to have detected our Longbow emissions, so now we're going to turn-off the radar and hide behind these trees for a few minutes. Talk amongst your...
by turmo
Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:10 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: UK Orders Wedgetails
Replies: 45
Views: 4948

Re: UK Orders Wedgetails

It's a win win for a common airframe between the P-8 and the E-7. It's not a common airframe, though there are many common components. The Poseidon is assembled on a separate line at Renton due to the extensive aiframe changes. Now if the MoD had specified the Poseidon airframe with the Wedgetail s...
by turmo
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:36 pm
Forum: RIAT
Topic: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread
Replies: 1395
Views: 133331

Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

What hacks me off is the "Declining show" comments, which have obviously no basis whatsoever. Of course it has a basis. We'll again never see 40 C-130s lined-up tip to tip, or an SR-71 low pass, or a Tu-95 making us feel ill with the prop noise. But we have to make do with the shadow of what used t...
by turmo
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:24 pm
Forum: RIAT
Topic: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread
Replies: 1395
Views: 133331

Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

One of the most ridiculous comments I've seen on here for a long time. If you don't like it, don't bloo*y go! Well if that rule was enforced then the FRIAT enclosure would be pretty empty. Adding the Blades and hyping it as an amazing first visit to the show is a real eye-roller. It's just a filler...
by turmo
Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Tornado farewell flypast February 2019
Replies: 292
Views: 37691

Re: Tornado farewell flypast February 2019

Blackcat1 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:26 pm
1 went to Belfast yesterday 😊
Indeed, thanks to the initiative of the ( local ) pilot. Nothing official from their Airships.
by turmo
Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Tornado farewell flypast February 2019
Replies: 292
Views: 37691

Re: Tornado farewell flypast February 2019

Seems that the RAF thinks that Brexit means that NI isn't part of the UK anymore.

Oh well lads, enjoy the last sounds of the Tornado for us. We had one at Belfast yesterday for missed-approaches, I guess that'll have to suffice.
by turmo
Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:54 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Machloop ban
Replies: 210
Views: 26232

Re: Machloop ban

Maybe we don’t have the F15E, but we do have DM Brimstone, something only the US can dream about . Hmm yes, Hellfire with a fancy seeker. Aren't we brill? I'm fairly sure that the $716 billion US defence budget could stretch to that. In fact, apparently they have already selected LM's dual-mode see...
by turmo
Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:41 am
Forum: RIAT
Topic: First time RIAT group thread?
Replies: 44
Views: 7064

Re: First time RIAT group thread?

Statics: If you want to photograph anything in the static you will need a short zoom as somebody else has pointed out, there will be some big aircraft in the static for sure and you will struggle sometimes with a 70mm focal length. Only if you want stereotypical shots. With all the clutter in the f...
by turmo
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:37 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Future Marine One - Sikorsky VH-92A lands at White House
Replies: 9
Views: 1742

Re: Future Marine One - Sikorsky VH-92A lands at White House

Is it not generally dependent on which way the rotors turn, clockwise or anti-clockwise? providing maximum area for the blades to "bite" into and avoiding the tailboom shielding the air. It can vary. When Mil flipped the tail-rotor to port for the Mi-8MT / 17 they changed it from a pusher to a trac...
by turmo
Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:30 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: T6-c aircraft at valley
Replies: 24
Views: 3698

Re: T6-c aircraft at valley

I would have thought (hoped!) that the performance expectations of the chosen type (crosswind/weather/field performance etc.) would have been part of the specification and RFP/tendering process, surely? as indeed should the equipment fit have been? There was no direct tender for the aircraft type f...
by turmo
Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:17 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: C-17 production
Replies: 19
Views: 3053

Re: C-17 production

The C-17 is a horribly inefficient way to move anything short of an MBT. It is used so much because there wasn't enough of anything else in the inventory once the C-141s were retired. A KC-10 will move 77 tonnes on 155klb thrust as a secondary role; a C-17 needs 172klb to lift 75 tonnes flying slowe...
by turmo
Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:11 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Sikorsky S-97 hits 200kts
Replies: 14
Views: 1790

Re: Sikorsky S-97 hits 200kts

Conventional:
1970 S-67 191 knots
1978 Mi-24A-10 199.13 knots
1986 Lynx ( mod ) 216.31 knots

Hybrid:
1948 Gyrodyne 108 knots
1959 Rotodyne 166 knots
2013 Airbus X3 255 knots

Jet augmented:
1967 XH-51 263 knots
1979 S-72 300 knots
by turmo
Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:12 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Aviation documentaries
Replies: 8
Views: 1179

Re: Aviation documentaries

Some of the best ones are official training videos or manufacturers' progress reports / promotional films, since unlike TV series they don't have to add fake drama or leave out nerdy details. Check-out channels like Jeff Quitney or SDASM Archives on YouTube: F-111 TFR Systems: https://www.youtube.co...
by turmo
Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:38 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Spitfire VS Tucano
Replies: 21
Views: 1831

Re: Spitfire VS Tucano

Nice idea! For a start the Tucano has marginally wider nominal g range, +6 / -3 versus +5.33 for the Spitfire. Plus it has much better power curve up to altitude and far more responsive to throttle. Will have to sit down with the books and think about this one! Any of the BBMF pilots still current o...
by turmo
Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:37 pm
Forum: RIAT
Topic: RIAT 2018 Awards
Replies: 42
Views: 6005

Re: RIAT 2018 Awards

"The As The Crow Flies Trophy is awarded in memory of the late Air Marshal Sir Denis Crowley-Milling..." The "Milling Around" award might have worked better, then. At least it wouldn't have overloaded an existing phrase which has a completely different common interpretation. The purpose of language...
by turmo
Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:42 pm
Forum: RIAT
Topic: RIAT 2018 Awards
Replies: 42
Views: 6005

Re: RIAT 2018 Awards

'As the crow flies' is indeed a confusing and obscure name. I wish they'd rename it to 'FRIAT Choice Display Award' or somesuch.

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