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by ColintheCaterpillar
Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:04 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: E-3 Numbers Reduced Again
Replies: 31
Views: 3723

Re: E-3 Numbers Reduced Again

I'd assume the nature of the role would mean an RAF crew, but there's nothing wrong with contracted services if it makes sense? and perhaps some suppport roles might be contracted? I suspect it’ll be just like every other RAF set up: first line in RAF, depth will be (rightly) contractors. Intereste...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:15 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: E-3 Numbers Reduced Again
Replies: 31
Views: 3723

Re: E-3 Numbers Reduced Again

Cyberfox wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:30 am
Just five!? Hopefully their serviceability will be high then.

I assume it'll be number 8 squadron that has the honour of operating them?
Considering it’s one of the most ubiquitous airframes in the world, yes.
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:28 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Bruntingthorpe closure
Replies: 65
Views: 10214

Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Really ? Why is it unreasonable to ask for an update on an event 11 weeks away ? Someone knows if it's been cancelled or if negotiations are ongoing. If negotiations are ongoing, just say so and when we might expect a decision. Some of us have been asking for months (since September/October) for an...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:56 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Bruntingthorpe closure
Replies: 65
Views: 10214

Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Really ? Why is it unreasonable to ask for an update on an event 11 weeks away ? Someone knows if it's been cancelled or if negotiations are ongoing. If negotiations are ongoing, just say so and when we might expect a decision. Some of us have been asking for months (since September/October) for an...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:48 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Bruntingthorpe closure
Replies: 65
Views: 10214

Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Looking through the above link and then reading the aviation page, at no point does it say the place is closed for good. I wouldn’t hold your breath. I think it’s the new owners current activities, and their growth, on the site that have severely restricted the aviation activities and stifled the O...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:32 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: E-3 Numbers Reduced Again
Replies: 31
Views: 3723

Re: E-3 Numbers Reduced Again

Vulcanone wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:08 am
Well it is Saturday and I was still half asleep...
With me it’s permanent :thumbs:
by ColintheCaterpillar
Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:36 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: E-3 Numbers Reduced Again
Replies: 31
Views: 3723

Re: E-3 Numbers Reduced Again

Vulcanone wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:22 am
NATO and French E-3s have regularly exercised and often work over the UK, And the RAF E-3s using the NATO callsign points to who they are partly flying for..
I think “partly” should be replaced with “always” to all intents and purposes.
by ColintheCaterpillar
Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:39 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: E-3 Numbers Reduced Again
Replies: 31
Views: 3723

Re: E-3 Numbers Reduced Again

Bluetail wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:54 pm
ZH104 was got airworthy only for it to be promptly despatched to the USA.
Not strictly true. From what I remember seeing, it was flying for several months before it went stateside.
by ColintheCaterpillar
Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:37 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: E-3 Numbers Reduced Again
Replies: 31
Views: 3723

Re: E-3 Numbers Reduced Again

Another capability gap!! No UK AEW for 9 months. I assume the French & NATO E3's will fill the gap? Yep, as they always have if required. It’s easy to forget you can’t just post any old aircrew onto an AEW platform. The RAF is hardly flush with spare “traditional” aircrew (for E-3 read pilots, and ...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:45 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Bruntingthorpe closure
Replies: 65
Views: 10214

Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

It was his generosity and vision which saved XH558 in the first place and has,I am sure, the ability to ignore stupid, ill-informed comments like that. Yep. Probably worth noting that I don’t think he’s the only one with a say regarding activities at Bruntingthorpe. I'm sure you're correct there , ...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:21 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Bruntingthorpe closure
Replies: 65
Views: 10214

Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Well one of the idea's - Vulcan to Bruntingthorpe was scuppered by GREED, by the people who were 'looking after it'. And Bruntingthorpe closure - scuppered by Mr Waltons GREED. It was his generosity and vision which saved XH558 in the first place and has,I am sure, the ability to ignore stupid, ill...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:38 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Bruntingthorpe closure
Replies: 65
Views: 10214

Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Just imagine what Bruntingthorpe could have become had the Vulcan been in a position to consider it as a permanent home. A live, national CWJ collection with the Vulcan as a centrepiece. Yes, the outcome would be exactly the same as it is now, Vulcan or no Vulcan, and therefore, if present, another...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:20 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Bruntingthorpe closure
Replies: 65
Views: 10214

Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Just imagine what Bruntingthorpe could have become had the Vulcan been in a position to consider it as a permanent home. A live, national CWJ collection with the Vulcan as a centrepiece.
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:30 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Bruntingthorpe closure
Replies: 65
Views: 10214

Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

I suspect Duxford's runway is too short for Lightning ground runs, or at least it would be over before it began as it were. Elvington is a nice idea though. That’s assuming they were able to ground run them. Moving them and moving the structure wouldn’t be cheap. For a non-National collection, Elvi...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:34 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Bruntingthorpe closure
Replies: 65
Views: 10214

Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Anything heard from the Lightning Team? Be a shame if they have to lose their QRA hangar - could that be moved elsewhere? like Binbrook for example? Not sure you'd want to move it there given there is no longer any runway left for jet runs, and it's too far away I'd imagine to get the footfall that...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:26 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Tucano flying?
Replies: 15
Views: 2382

Re: Tucano flying?

I'd imagine the costs and challenge of operating and supporting a single aircraft fleet would preclude this, let alone it will no longer be certified after withdrawal from service. I've always believed that the CFS' role is to train flying instructors on in-service types hence again, can't see a ro...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:58 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Tucano flying?
Replies: 15
Views: 2382

Re: Tucano flying?

Aren’t CFS still operating a Tucano at Cranwell? No, and can’t see why they would need to anyway as the type is no longer in service?! When you’ve only been given a finite number of Texans at Valley (ie, you can’t just keep one in the shed at Cranwell as was done with the Tucano), and your examiner...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:09 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Bruntingthorpe closure
Replies: 65
Views: 10214

Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Someone should tell the Classic British Jets Collection. Presumably they're not part of "all the volunteers" who were told. https://www.facebook.com/465518487285411/posts/792646667905923/ You note they say they haven’t been told anything. Nothing either way. I know a member of another group who ask...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:03 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Tucano flying?
Replies: 15
Views: 2382

Re: Tucano flying?

Aren’t CFS still operating a Tucano at Cranwell?
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:28 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: P-8 Delivery Schedule
Replies: 20
Views: 3013

Re: P-8 Delivery Schedule

Vulcanone wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:28 pm
Turmo the first 4 C-17s were leased. They dropped that when we bought 4 more.

All are now ours and Not leased even if they never gave them a formal name
Probably because they realised doing so would just cause unecessary confusion to our allies and fellow C-17 operators.

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