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by ColintheCaterpillar
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

Scampton would be the ideal permeant location, It would be nice if another flying unit like the UAS Grob wing at Wittering relocated to Scampton. Then giving the mod a good reason to keep Scampton open. Not sure of the compatibility of Grobs and the Reds. I think the only way Wittering works as a s...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:41 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

tm74sqn wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:38 am
I'll not access that site due to their cooky policy.
In precis of the article, lots of political speak and not much information. :thumb:
by ColintheCaterpillar
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

Vulcanone wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:11 am
If anyone cares to look back at the original post from some point way back when..... You will find that the MoD had already shortlisted the 3 sites which were on the list

Leeming Wittering and Waddington
There’s always a sensible one! :D
by ColintheCaterpillar
Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:07 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

I think short term, Scampton will remain as the practice area - people have to remember that the "danger area" they practice in is a 5 mile radius up to 9,000 or 10,000ft. Yes, fire and emergency cover would be required, as would ATC, but importantly the airfield itself would not require upkeep to ...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:55 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

Wasn't Boscombe Down in the frame a few years ago?. The movements there are not exactly prolific and the "Reds"could be co-ordinated with base operations fairly easily I would assume!. Also Boscombe's location could afford them the relative airspace required for ops! Sadly I fear any Southern locat...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:11 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

roughcutter wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:03 pm
That would make the bean counters rejoice :@ ).
Only very few of them. As often argued, the Reds are arguably very good value for money as both a flying advert for UK plc and a better recruitment tool than paying for some adverts to appear during BGT.
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:37 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

So what is needed is an airfield with hangarage; admin facilities;and a usable runway with ready access to a chunk of airspace 10 miles diameter and 10,000' high. AFter that until the RAF announce the new location, its anybody's guess. Basically... SCAMPTON! Unfortunately the RAF know this, but the...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

Cottesmore was in use 12 months ago. https://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=154074 And in May this year if I remember correctly. There was a C17 at Wittering at night making low approaches over the A1 a few months ago. The Grobs could stay at Wittering and operate using Barksto...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

Cottesmore is no more - no lights and the runway is going downhill fast - there's also the issue that's it's now an army base, Kendrew Barracks. Still usable if you needed it to be. Doesn’t need to be fully re-activated. Runway doesn’t even need to be re-opened. Far older airfields have been fully ...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

plmc135 wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:10 am
Not sure Waddington is really an option as it could impact on the operations at Cranwell, which in todays terms is relatively busy.
If it was just a case of getting in and out, then not too much of an issue.
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:11 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

I think short term, Scampton will remain as the practice area - people have to remember that the "danger area" they practice in is a 5 mile radius up to 9,000 or 10,000ft. Yes, fire and emergency cover would be required, as would ATC, but importantly the airfield itself would not require upkeep to ...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:55 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

wezgulf3 With the retirement of the sentinel at some point in next 5 years I think there would be plenty of room. Its not about room at Waddington, when the Red Arrows practice it shuts down the base, this would have an impact on Waddington's flying schedule. Wes... Which often ranges from 0 to 3 m...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:27 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: RAF Medals Award?
Replies: 3
Views: 602

Re: RAF Medals Award?

It’s a tough one. Traditionally quite a few crews actually operating in or over theatre didn’t qualify for clasps (or even medals in some cases); tanker and ISTAR crews who often sat over theatre in their aircraft, often within range of hostile assets sometimes fell into this bracket. It was also re...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

wezgulf3 With the retirement of the sentinel at some point in next 5 years I think there would be plenty of room. Its not about room at Waddington, when the Red Arrows practice it shuts down the base, this would have an impact on Waddington's flying schedule. Wes... There are potentially other opti...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:59 am
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Red Arrows New Base?
Replies: 102
Views: 8163

Re: Red Arrows New Base?

Evening All Anyone heard the latest rumour about the new Red Arrows home, have heard it could be Waddington. The disruption to the based assets at Waddington would surely be to much to consider that as a serious alternative to Scampton? Wes... The problem is, where else do you put them? Cranwell an...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Marshalls move
Replies: 26
Views: 4280

Re: Marshalls move

reaperops wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:31 pm
Would it be possible that the General Flying Operations from Cambridge such as the flying group, flying schools etc would move to Duxford with the MADG Business re-locating to a new location.
Quite possibly.
by ColintheCaterpillar
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: Marshalls move
Replies: 26
Views: 4280

Re: Marshalls move

Had a lecture with one of the Marshalls pilots, he said Cranfield and Duxford are very unlikely Spoke with a friend last weekend who works in the Marshalls management team, said Duxford was a non-starter, Cranfield very likely! I could imagine Duxfords runway length and location could be a bit of a...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:09 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: RAF looking for P8 crews
Replies: 7
Views: 1740

Re: RAF looking for P8 crews

Isn't it the case that Flight Engineers & Navigators are not necessary any longer? Just 2 drivers & 7 moaning System-Operators down back in the cheap-seats! ;) Maybe something the E3D community could help with prior to the Wedgetails pitching-up? How long would it take to enhance a redundant Tornad...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:13 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: RAF looking for P8 crews
Replies: 7
Views: 1740

Re: RAF looking for P8 crews

What about all those who have being on hold for a few years after completing their aircrew training and doing ground duties? That’s not necessarily where the holds are. Holds tend to be earlier in training, and most notably the pilot branch, which are just 2 seats amongst quite a large crew. The ot...
by ColintheCaterpillar
Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: The Fighter Control Mess
Topic: RAF looking for P8 crews
Replies: 7
Views: 1740

Re: RAF looking for P8 crews

That’s the problem with a capability gap. Lots of the kipper fleet have left or relocated “down south”. Some will want to go back (such as those already in the Seedcorn programme), others won’t. The Nimrod was always a “marmite” posting anyway.

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