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  HMS SULTAN Visit


Fighter Control’s On Task Chief Editor, Rick Sleight, reports on the inaugural visit for the FC Visit Group, to HMS Sultan at Gosport on 29th March 2005.

FLIGHT PLANNING:

After weeks of preparation, the inaugural Fighter Control [FC] visit took place at the Royal Naval Air Engineering and Survival School [RNAESS] at HMS Sultan in Gosport on Tuesday 29th March 2005.

Throughout winter 2004, many FC forum members registered with the FC Visits Group, administered by my ‘better half’ Kirsty. By the beginning of 2005, over 100 people had already joined our fledgling group.

In February 2005, Kirsty began the process of contacting many aviation related locations around the UnitedKingdom, to request visits for the group. Almost immediately, a steady flow of positive responses for the 2005 programme, were returned to the FC office, with offers of visits to Arborfield (28th April), Coltishall (19th August), Cosford (26th May), Marham (26th July), Netheravon (9th May), Syerston (30th June and 10th August), plus the HMS Sultan visit on 29th March. We have also been offered visits to Hawker Hunter Aviation at Scampton and RAF Spadeadam, however we are still awaiting date confirmation on these, as at 19th April.

We have also received positive responses for the 2006 programme from, Cottesmore, Dishforth, Leeming, Shawbury and BAe Warton, so 2006 looks like being an exciting year for the group also!

One of the very first locations to reply was HMS Sultan, who offered the group a visit on 29th March, with 15 places, which we gratefully accepted. As part of the group Terms and Conditions, visits are advertised to the registered members via an email group, on a Friday evening and Sultan was the first visit to be advertised in this way. Within two days the visit was almost full and by the following weekend, all 15 available places were taken, with three other members on the reserve list.

Once Kirsty had confirmed the names of those attending, to her contact at Sultan, everything was set, for the first group of Fighter Controllers to get ‘airborne’!

MISSION:

Once one or two emails had been exchanged between those attending, to arrange car sharing etc., everyone arrived safely and on time, with everyone arriving at virtually the same moment.

We were met by our host for the visit, Steve Dugan, [Common Training Group Officer] from the AESS, who gave everyone a brief rundown on the rules and regulations and shortly after, we were off in search of our ‘bounty’. Steve proved to be a superb host, knowing exactly what our members required from the visit.
The visit began with a look at the airframes in the Cockerell hangar, where Aircraft Battle Damage Repair [ABDR] training is performed by the trainees.



Next stop was the Newcomen hangar, which contained many more training airframes most of which were ex Royal Navy [RN] Sea Kings, recently retired, due to the arrival of the Merlin HM.1 in RN service.


After a short walk, made at top speed, to avoid the ever present drizzle, we took refuge in the Stephenson hangar, where the fictitious 760 Engineering Training Squadron keep some of their airframes. The light in this hangar was very conducive to photography, however, unfortunately only three airframes were inside but it was good to see a pre production EH-101 Merlin, ZF649 inside here.

This airframe was saved by the AESS, when it was no longer required for pre production work and is now used to give apprentices hands on experience of the Merlin, which they will undoubtedly work on in their future careers.
At this juncture, as it was our inaugural visit, I asked Steve to take a photograph of the whole group, which he kindly did and thankfully most of us showed our ‘good sides’!

The penultimate stop on the visit was in the crowded Whittle hangar where many airframes are kept, including the most interesting ones!

These are five ex Egyptian Navy Sea King Mk.47s, which originally arrived in the UK in February 2004, as a spares source for the Royal Australian Navy [RAN].




Having stripped them of the spares they required, the RAN then asked the RN how they could dispose of them. The simple answer was for the AESS to keep them and use them at Sultan, amongst the many airframes used, which total approximately 70 in number.

One last location was visited, which was a little unusual! From under the cover of some bicycle shelters we were afforded some respite from the continuous drizzle and also to photograph a once rarely seen Sea King HAS.5, XZ570, which previously operated from Boscombe Down in Wiltshire, where it was used in it’s latter years for Merlin radar trial work.
 

Throughout the visit, note taking of airframe serials and markings was allowed, as was photography and Steve was also happy to answer any questions that were directed to him. Steve was not only extremely knowledgeable but also injected a good deal of humour into some of his responses too! When asked about why one of the Sea Kings was painted matt black, his simple reply of “Stealth” was answered, without change of facial expression, until he gave the real reason!



The injection of such humour and friendliness was indeed welcomed by us, as sadly, the only thing to hamper an otherwise excellent inaugural visit was the inclement weather, which provided a constant downpour of drizzle, throughout the day.


Every airframe on site was shown to the group during the visit, even the Gazelle which was locked inside a classroom in the ‘Daedalus’ building, however it could be seen clearly through the windows.
The duration of the visit was approximately two hours and was thoroughly enjoyed by all those attending.

DEBRIEF:

At the conclusion of the visit, I presented Steve with £75 for the AESS. As part of our terms and conditions, all those attending FC visits pay a £5 donation, which is given to the visit location, to be presented to the charity of their choice. Although this is our normal practice, in the case of Sultan, the money collected will be used to provide new and replacement tools for the apprentice engineers, which we were more than happy with, as this is also indeed a good cause.

I had intended to present Steve with the money in full view of everyone involved but again, with thanks to the poor weather, this was not possible. After some personal thanks and farewell handshakes between everyone and Steve, by the time I handed over the money to Steve, most of the members had run to their vehicles for cover, to escape the unrelenting drizzle!


Having personally thanked Steve on behalf of the group, he then advised me that we were more than welcome to visit again in the future, to give those group members who missed out this time, another opportunity. Therefore on our return, Kirsty not only sent Steve a letter of thanks on behalf of the group [again, another FC standard practice] but also arranged another visit for our 2005 visits programme. This visit has been arranged for 24th August and already the 15 places offered have all been taken by different members, so this is indeed proving a popular location, which we may well have to contact again soon.

I also checked with Steve to ensure that I could publish details of our visit on the site, together with a full list of all the airframes seen, which he was quite happy for me to do which contains details of everything seen on 29th March.


HMS Sultan Fighter Control Visit Tuesday 29th March 2005


Serial Code Unit Type Location Ex Colour Scheme Notes
 
ZF649 PP5 DCEME EH-101 Stephenson Hangar RN Grey 760 Engineering Training Squadron; Marked HMS Somerset
XZ930 Q DCEME Gazelle HT.3 Daedalus Building RAF Red/White  
XV370 260 DCEME SH-3D Stephenson Hangar RN Grey 760 Engineering Training Squadron
XV642 259 DCEME Sea King HAS.2A Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
XV655 N 270 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
XV660 N 269 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
XV663   DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Matt Black Primer No Serial Shown
XV665 CU 507 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
XV674 L 015 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
XV675 PW 701 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
XV677 269 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Outside Whittle Hangar RN Grey No Rear End
XV696 L 267 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Cockerell Hangar RN Grey  
XV701 N 268 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Outside Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
XV708 CU 501 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
XV711 CW 515 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
XV712 66 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Grey Tiger Markings  
XV713 L 018 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
XZ570   DCEME Sea King HAS.5 Outside Whittle Hangar RN Dark Blue/Orange  
XZ571 L 016 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
XZ576   DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
XZ579 PW 707 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
XZ581 CU 269 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
XZ921 N 269 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
ZA127 CU 509 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
ZA128 010 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
ZA131 N 271 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
ZA136 18 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Cockerell Hangar RN Grey No Cockpit Section
ZA169 CW 515 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
ZA170   DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Matt Black Primer Serial Taped On Fuselage, No Rear End
ZD630 L 012 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
ZD633 L 014 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
ZD634 L 503 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
ZD637 PW 700 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
ZF115   DCEME Sea King Mk.4X Whittle Hangar RAF Red/White/Blue  
ZG816 L 014 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
ZG817 PW 702 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Newcomen Hangar RN Grey  
ZG818 707 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
ZG819 N 265 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Stephenson Hangar RN Grey 760 Engineering Training Squadron, Named Tigger Taxis
ZG875 L 013 DCEME Sea King HAS.6 Whittle Hangar RN Grey  
771   DCEME Sea King Mk.47 Whittle Hangar Egyptian AF Blue Serial visible under paint
772 c/n WA825 DCEME Sea King Mk.47 Whittle Hangar Egyptian AF Blue Serial visible under paint
773 c/n WA823 DCEME Sea King Mk.47 Whittle Hangar Egyptian AF Yellow Primer Serial and c/n handwritten on
774   DCEME Sea King Mk.47 Whittle Hangar Egyptian AF Yellow Primer Serial handwritten on
775   DCEME Sea King Mk.47 Whittle Hangar Egyptian AF Yellow Primer Serial handwritten on
XS568   DCEME Wasp HAS.1 Outside Stephenson Hangar RN Blue  
XV625 471 DCEME Wasp HAS.1 Whittle Hangar RN Blue  
XP110 FL 55 DCEME Wessex HAS.3 Cockerell Hangar RN Blue/Yellow  
XR508 B DCEME Wessex HC.2 Cockerell Hangar RAF Camouflage Coded B on Nose, With Boom of XR523/M
XR518 O DCEME Wessex HC.2 Cockerell Hangar RAF Camouflage Coded J on Boom and O on Nose
XS122 655 DCEME Wessex HAS.3 Cockerell Hangar RN Blue/Yellow  
XS488 XK DCEME Wessex HU.5 Cockerell Hangar RN Dark Green Coded XK on Nose, With Boom of XR497/F
XS496   DCEME Wessex HU.5 Cockerell Hangar RN Dark Green  
XS507 27 DCEME Wessex HU.5 Whittle Hangar RN Dark Green Code on Nose Only
XS514 L DCEME Wessex HU.5 Whittle Hangar RN Dark Green  
XS520 F DCEME Wessex HU.5 Outside Newcomen Hangar RN Dark Green  
XT453 A B DCEME Wessex HU.5 Whittle Hangar RN Spinach Coded B on Fuselage and A on Tail
XT455   DCEME Wessex HU.5 Outside Newcomen Hangar RN Dark Green  
XT458 622 DCEME Wessex HU.5 Whittle Hangar RN Dark Green  
XT466 X DCEME Wessex HU.5 Whittle Hangar RN Dark Green  
XT484 H DCEME Wessex HU.5 Outside Newcomen Hangar RN Dark Green  
XT485   DCEME Wessex HU.5 Whittle Hangar RN Dark Green  
XT607 P DCEME Wessex HC.2 Cockerell Hangar RAF Camouflage  
XT761   DCEME Wessex HU.5 Outside Newcomen Hangar RN Blue/Red  
XT771 620 DCEME Wessex HU.5 Whittle Hangar RN Dark Green  
XV720   DCEME Wessex HC.2 Between Newcomen & Stephenson Hangar RAF Yellow SARTU Markings  
XV724   DCEME Wessex HC.2 Cockerell Hangar RAF Yellow  
 
Other Parts Noted
 
XZ664   DCEME Lynx AH.7 Boom Cockerell Hangar Parts Only   Cannot be counted, For Info. Only
XS488   DCEME Wessex HU.5 Boom Outside Whittle Hangar Parts Only   Cannot be counted, For Info. Only
XT460   DCEME Wessex HU.5 Boom Cockerell Hangar Parts Only   Cannot be counted, For Info. Only
XT670   DCEME Wessex HC.2 Boom Cockerell Hangar Parts Only   Cannot be counted, For Info. Only

Notes
With thanks to James Lawrence, Brian Rodgers and Rick Sleight for assistance with this log.


FUTURE FLIGHTS:


Well, that’s it for now. If you haven’t joined our exclusive Fighter Control Visits Group yet, then why not drop Kirsty a line at tripslady@yahoo.co.uk and give her the following details, where applicable.

FORUM NAME [You MUST be a forum member]
FULL NAME
FULL ADDRESS
EMAIL ADDRESS [You MUST be an email user, as this is how visits are advertised]
TELEHONE NUMBER [Home/Mobile/Work]
CAR TYPE
CAR COLOUR
CAR REGISTRATION
PASSPORT NUMBER


All of these details are required, as some locations insist on having them before visits can take place. Contact telephone numbers are important too, as we may have to contact people last minute, in case of any late changes to visit details.

Once you have registered and returned a signed copy of our Terms and Conditions back to Kirsty, you could well be taking part in the next Fighter Control visit!

Rick Sleight. With thanks to our wonderful host Steve Dugan, all 15 who attended with impeccable behaviour and finally to James Lawrence and Wayne Trigg for their photographic assistance with this article.