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Feb 2018

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by chrisward123 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:51 am

Tarnish9 wrote:I would head over to see the Tonka but it's pouring down here now mate, thank you for the updates on here, I for one appreciate your updates :)
Thanks buddy, see you soon.. stay out of trouble! :P

Christian

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by Tarnish9 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:00 pm

chrisward123 wrote:
Thanks buddy, see you soon.. stay out of trouble! :P

Christian
:Wow: :Wow: :thumbs:

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by TombsRIP » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:57 pm

chrisward123 wrote:08/02
Runway 25 in Use
Parked Northside G-CFAC
13:23 - G-ILLR/CLJ933 (Arvo RJ100/Cello Aviation)
14:42 - XX316 (Hawk T.1/100 SQN) Missed Approach
Avro RJ100 c/n E3379 G-ILLR ex G-CFAC & HB-IYU.still shows previous UK reg on modeS.

XX316 callsign was Pirate 18 (modeS).

Cheers MG

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by chrisward123 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:10 pm

Thanks Martin

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by chrisward123 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:29 pm

09/02
Runway 25 In Use
Parked Northside - MTA - Typhoon (ZR408/NS008), G-OWTN, G-MAJC, G-JMCM & G-BWWW
Parked Southside - Typhoon (ZJ938/BS031/IPA6), Tornado (ZE119/BS163/517), Typhoon (ZK426/BS142/RAF) & Typhoon (ZK430/BS146/RAF - Primer)

08:43 - G-JMCM/BAE102 (B733/Western Atlantic) Arr from Heraklion, Crete
09:24 - G-MAJC/East Flt 102 (JS41/Eastern Airways) Dep
09:47 - ZK023 (Hawk T.2/RAF) Overshoot x2
12:25 - ZE119/T.9 (Tornado/517) Dep in Amazing Light... Brilliant!
13:26 - ZJ938/IPA6 (Typhoon/T.58) Dep
13:38 - ZK459/CWL84 (B.200/RAF 45 SQN) Overshoot
13:48 - ZE119/T.9 (Tornado/517) Arr (1 Flythrough with U/C down, seemed like U/C issues)
14:56 - G-OWTN/BAE43 (E145/BAE Systems) Dep to Farnborough
15:00 - ZK426/T.9 (Typhoon/RAF) Dep (Performance Takeoff with A/B)
15:05 - G-MAJC/East Flt 104 (JS41/Eastern Airways) Arr
15:10 - ZK430/T.69 (Typhoon/RAF) Dep (Performance Takeoff with A/B) - PFAT3
15:21 - ZJ938/T.58 (Typhoon/IPA6) RTB with 1 fly through
15:25 - ZK426/T.9 (Typhoon/RAF) Flythrough x3 (U/C Issues), Arr @ 15:38
16:05 - ZK014 (Hawk T.2/RAF) Overshoot x2
16:19 - ZK430/T.69 (Typhoon/RAF) Flythrough x2
16:22 - ZK023 (Hawk T.2/RAF) Overshoot x2
16:29 - ZK430/T.69 (Typhoon/RAF) Arr with Chute (including Overshoot, T+G, Flythrough)

By far the busiest day of the year, in amazing light. :thumbs:
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Re: Feb 2018

Post by TombsRIP » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:08 am

chrisward123 wrote:09/02
Parked Southside Typhoon (ZR408/NS008)
Morning Christian
Do you know if ZR408 has underwing 1000lit ferry tanks fitted yet? Thought it was now operating off MTA from 5 hangar. It last flew on monday this week but late afternoon (T69). Im sure he parked on MTA could be wrong ....

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by chrisward123 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:12 am

TombsRIP wrote:
chrisward123 wrote:09/02
Parked Southside Typhoon (ZR408/NS008)
Morning Christian
Do you know if ZR408 has underwing 1000lit ferry tanks fitted yet? Thought it was now operating off MTA from 5 hangar. It last flew on monday this week but late afternoon (T69). Im sure he parked on MTA could be wrong ....

Cheers
ZR408 Towed from 358 to MTA.

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Re: Feb 2018 Fri 9/2 odds & sods

Post by TombsRIP » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:53 pm

Very useful log Christian but if I can add a few things .
Be200GT ZK459/X was in special poppy c/scheme unfortunately o/shoot too high at 1339z.
ZK938/IPA6 was flown by Rebel 58 (again). Recovered initials 25 1519z and land 1521z.
Tornado ZE119 is ex RSAF 760 (CS006). It was orig built as BS163 but diverted. It first flew 3/2/86 & orig delivered 24/2/87. I think it's referred to as "TINST (trial instln) B" jet under the "TS3" programme Note the Tornado Sustainability Programme (TSP) involved CS026, CS(R)037 & CT017. CS006 returned to Warton on 3/4/14 (1904L) having routed Dhahran-Tabuk-Iraklion-Gioia del Colle to Warton over 2 days.
ZK426 (BS142) obviously another ex short term stored jet being lined up for delivery [along with ZK424 (BS140) which flew an airtest o)n 5/2]. Like ZK424, ZK426 was showing correct hex code (BS140=43C7A1; BS142=43C7A3) but an incorrect serial "ZK381" on a number of ModeS sites. WTN09 reported a red FCS2 warning with poss landing gear failure ("weight on wheels") but had 3 greens indicated. It flew through overhead 3 times before landing at 1538z as mentioned but didnt need to take RHAG so presumably no nosewheel steering failure was diagnosed. Think he used aero braking and didnt stream the breakchute. Cheers MG

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by chrisward123 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:58 am

12/02
Runway 25 In Use
Parked Northside - G-OWTN, G-JMCM, G-MAJC & G-BWWW. Also G-TYPH (due in from Bari, Italy)
Parked Southside - Typhoon (ZJ700/IPA5/PS002) & Typhoon (ZJ938/BS031/IPA6)

07:49 - G-OWTN/BAE41 (E145/BAE Systems) Dep to Farnborough, RTB as BAE42 @ 09:33
08:07 - G-MAJC/East Flt 102 (JS41/Eastern Airways) Dep to Coningsby, RTB as East Flt 103 @ 10:30
12:10 - ZF171/LOP53 (Tucano T.1/72(R) SQN) Missed Approach
14:05 - G-CPTM (PA.28/Private) Multiple T+Gs
15:04 - ZJ700/T.69 - (Typhoon/IPA5) - Dep Dry Takeoff
15:24 - G-MAJC/East Flt 104 (JS41/Eastern Airways) Dep, RTB as East Flt 105 @ 16:56
15:53 - ZJ938/Rebel58 (Typhoon/IPA6) Dep Dry Takeoff
16:24 - G-BYUI/UAM03 (G.115E/RAF) - Overhead Join then T+G
16:26 - G-NHAA/HM58A (AS.365/Great North Air Ambulance Service) Arr for Refuel
17:10 - G-JMCM/NPT011P (B733/Western Atlantic) Dep to London Stansted - No Longer in use by BAE
Both Typhoons arrived Late afternoon around 6pm
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Re: Feb 2018 Mon 12/2

Post by TombsRIP » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:33 pm

Hi Christian
I see ZJ700/IPA5 is airborne on a rare sortie - seen on climbout over Lytham area 1507z. Bit of a hangar queen of late ...must have come off one hell of a layup.
Rebel 58 is up in ZJ938/IPA6 (again).
Cheers MG

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by tm74sqn » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:09 pm

Isn't ZJ700 a test aircraft for the new radar - E-Scan radar (Captor E)?
Cheers, TM74

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Re: Feb 2018 Fri 9/2 odds & sods

Post by tm74sqn » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:24 pm

TombsRIP wrote:Very useful log Christian but if I can add a few things .
Be200GT ZK459/X was in special poppy c/scheme unfortunately o/shoot too high at 1339z.
ZK938/IPA6 was flown by Rebel 58 (again). Recovered initials 25 1519z and land 1521z.
Tornado ZE119 is ex RSAF 760 (CS006). It was orig built as BS163 but diverted. It first flew 3/2/86 & orig delivered 24/2/87. I think it's referred to as "TINST (trial instln) B" jet under the "TS3" programme Note the Tornado Sustainability Programme (TSP) involved CS026, CS(R)037 & CT017. CS006 returned to Warton on 3/4/14 (1904L) having routed Dhahran-Tabuk-Iraklion-Gioia del Colle to Warton over 2 days.
ZK426 (BS142) obviously another ex short term stored jet being lined up for delivery [along with ZK424 (BS140) which flew an airtest o)n 5/2]. Like ZK424, ZK426 was showing correct hex code (BS140=43C7A1; BS142=43C7A3) but an incorrect serial "ZK381" on a number of ModeS sites. WTN09 reported a red FCS2 warning with poss landing gear failure ("weight on wheels") but had 3 greens indicated. It flew through overhead 3 times before landing at 1538z as mentioned but didnt need to take RHAG so presumably no nosewheel steering failure was diagnosed. Think he used aero braking and didnt stream the breakchute. Cheers MG
Thank you both for the info. I wonder if anyone can help me with a few queries?
(1) I've seen one or two of the Omani Typhoons, but never next to a RAF one in the same light conditions, and am trying to decide whether the grey is the same for both air forces. My impression is that the Omani grey is slightly darker than the RAF grey, but am I right?
(2) Were the temporary store Typhoons ZK424, 425, 426, 427 painted grey before they were stored? If not, any idea when they were painted? Or when last seen in primer?
Regards, TM74

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by TombsRIP » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:30 pm

tm74sqn wrote:Isn't ZJ700 a test aircraft for the new radar - E-Scan radar (Captor E)?
Cheers, TM74
Yes, supposedly, just hasn't flown very much since it was fitted with new E-Scan Captor E radar. If I recall it made an appearance at Farnborough a couple of years ago allegedly with a fully working E-Scan radar. Maybe fitted with a smoke & mirrors pod as well! Guess they do alot of ground testing as well hence the dirth of IPA5 sorties recently.

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Re: Feb 2018 Fri 9/2 odds & sods

Post by TombsRIP » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:38 pm

tm74sqn wrote:
TombsRIP wrote: Thank you both for the info. I wonder if anyone can help me with a few queries?
(1) I've seen one or two of the Omani Typhoons, but never next to a RAF one in the same light conditions, and am trying to decide whether the grey is the same for both air forces. My impression is that the Omani grey is slightly darker than the RAF grey, but am I right?
(2) Were the temporary store Typhoons ZK424, 425, 426, 427 painted grey before they were stored? If not, any idea when they were painted? Or when last seen in primer?
Regards, TM74
(1) Yes they are darker but don't know the FS codes for the paint colours to compare. See some of my jpegs on UK Serials in different lighting conditions;
(2) yes they were all painted before going into temp store AFTER PFAT flying eg. ZK425 (BS141) was in paintshop late 5/17 (F/F 10/4/17); I believe some of these were in temp store pre PFAT flying still in primer (ZK424 & ZK425 in 25 Hangar annex c. late Jan 17).

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by chrisward123 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:39 am

13/02
Runway 25 in Use
Parked Northside - G-OWTN, G-MAJC & G-BWWW
Parked Southside- Nothing

07:50 - G-OWTN/BAE41 (E145/BAE Systems) Dep to Farnborough
08:11 - G-MAJC/East Flt 102 (JS41/Eastern Airways) Dep R.07 to Coningsby
11:28 - ZK028 (Hawk T.2/RAF) Overhead Join then Overshoot x2
12:05 - ZK035 (Hawk T.2/RAF) LOW Overshoot x2



Thanks Martin for adding to the logs, very interesting.
Looks like IPA5/ZJ700 last flew in 2016... https://www.eurofighter.com/news-and-ev ... yphoon-jet
I expect we will see her flying more often during the build up to testing/certifying E-SCAN for the Kuwait contract.
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Re: Feb 2018 IPA5

Post by TombsRIP » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:20 am

chrisward123 wrote: Thanks Martin for adding to the logs, very interesting.
Looks like IPA5/ZJ700 last flew in 2016... https://www.eurofighter.com/news-and-ev ... yphoon-jet
I expect we will see her flying more often during the build up to testing/certifying E-SCAN for the Kuwait contract.
Trawling through my logs IPA5 did a flurry of sorties in Jan 17. I expect twin seat "EF2000(T)" 98+08 (GT026/IPA8) has flown quite a few sorties from Manching since its F/F 12/9/16, in support of Captor-E development as of course, the 28 ac Kuwaiti order will be assembled and flown from Caselle unfortunately. Would be nice to see IPA8 visiting Warton as some stage! More wishful thinking... Cheers MG
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Re: Feb 2018

Post by tm74sqn » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:39 pm

Many thanks to TombsRIP (and all other contributors to this thread).
Regards to all, TM74

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by TARGET » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:42 pm

I was under the impression the Kuwaiti aircraft are being assembled in Italy

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by TombsRIP » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:29 pm

TARGET wrote:I was under the impression the Kuwaiti aircraft are being assembled in Italy
Correct Mike, you are on the ball today. Sometimes I have senior moments....cant be right all the time unfortunately :-) Not at Warton anyhow ;)

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Re: Feb 2018

Post by TARGET » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:19 pm

Thought I was only one who had "serior moments"

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