RAF Marham knife incident

Post by **markranger** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:48 pm

I would suggest anyone thinking of going to Marham tomorrow outside and in the future to respect the police if they don't want you hanging around an area.
After this they will be very on edge and might not be as tolerant as they normally are.
Also if you see anything out of the Norm report it.

http://news.sky.com/story/raf-marham-se ... e-10507777

http://www.norfolk.police.uk/newsandeve ... ident.aspx

Post by **WAP** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:21 am

Something to be aware of, an Incident at Marham yesterday means there is an extra Police presence in the surrounding area and although this article says it will go ahead the BBC are saying a decision will be made this morning as to weather the families day will happen or not

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07 ... rham-base/

Post by **Andy_99** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:54 am

Glad nothing more serious ddn't happen (Not that the incident wasn't serious)

I'm guessing by the statement 'Not issuing a description' means the Police have a pretty good idea of who it was & I hope they throw the book at them.

Post by **The Phantom** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:18 am

Andy_99 wrote: 'Not issuing a description' means the Police have a pretty good idea of who it was & I hope they throw the book at them.

Likely to get anything of up to a £100 fine. That'll learn 'em!

Post by **Snoop 95** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:34 am

Maybe someone on here saw the dark coloured Ford Galaxy (or similar) and can provide info for the Police. That sort of thing will give a boost to spotters in the Public's eyes.

Post by **Thunder** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:22 am

Until we get the full details, it's hard to say what type of incident this was, however the word 'threatened' and not 'attacked' was used. From a spotters perspective we can help by being extra vigilant around bases and report any suspicious behavior to the RAF Police and Civil Police.

Post by **Tally-ho** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:08 pm

Whether the RAF airman was threatened or attacked is immaterial, the fact is a member of HM Armed Forces was put in harms way by knife-wielding individuals who had pre-meditated thoughts that bode him and our society no good.

Latest news has it that the two men were of "Middle Eastern" origin (Sky News at 13.00) .... and we all know what that means.

Congratulations to the staff / personnel of RAF Marham for continuing with the long planned Families Day, it shows backbone and strength of character in not being intimidated by .... (self moderated). Three cheers to the good people of RAF Marham!

Post by **markranger** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:38 pm

latest update

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-engla ... k-36719485

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-36853106

Post by **Tally-ho** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:27 pm

Elsewhere (thread locked and diverted to here) a reference was made to "'threatened and not attacked":-

Whether the RAF airman was threatened or attacked is immaterial, the fact is a member of HM Armed Forces was put in harms way by knife-wielding individuals who had pre-meditated thoughts that bode him and our society no good.

News has it that the two assailants were of "Middle Eastern" origin (Sky News, BBC et al) .... and we all know what that means.

Congratulations to the staff / personnel of RAF Marham for continuing with the long planned Families Day, it shows backbone and strength of character in not being intimidated by .... (self moderated). Three cheers to the good people of RAF Marham!

Post by **POL** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:37 pm

Tally-ho wrote:...the fact is a member of HM Armed Forces was put in harms way by knife-wielding individuals who had pre-meditated thoughts that bode him and our society no good.

And that is somehow worse than if it were any other person being put in harms way?

Tally-ho wrote:News has it that the two assailants were of "Middle Eastern" origin (Sky News, BBC et al) .... and we all know what that means.

You're right, we do. It means that the two assilants were of middle eastern origin. If you're insinuating anything else, that is bordering on racism, and there is no place for it on this forum!

Post by **Vulcanone** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:53 pm

Indeed before this thread goes down the tubes. I might point out that living in Bayswater and being surrounded by many men of similar type description I will point out that there are many other criminal persons apart from these. just look up the water fight in nearby Hyde Park that turned ugly on Tuesday...

Tim

Post by **markranger** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:07 pm

Edit,Discuss in here,
I will leave a Sticky in the Marham section.

Sorry I'm still the new boy on here.

Post by **page_verify** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:07 pm

If you read around online, you'll find the rumour that the RAF person involved was probably from the worst trade possible to try and abduct someone from. Others may not have been anywhere near as lucky, a sad lesson learnt today for local area security I'm sure.

Post by **Gary** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:12 pm

Not seen so much security both MOD plod and Police on a RAF base before. From what was said on base the bloke involved was a Rock Ape, so training will have helped or it might have been a different story

Post by **page_verify** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:26 pm

Jem60, I'd hope we'd always like to give the people involved in these terrible situations the benefit of the doubt until there's something to suggest otherwise. Given that DNA (blood?) samples were taken from the RAF chap, I'd suggest we'll know sooner rather than later who the blood came from.

Post by **The Phantom** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:42 pm

jem60 wrote:Just throwing a rock into a pool, and possibly causing ripples.
There were, it seems, no witnesses to this event. Could the person involved have been attention seeking??.

I can't believe someone on this site would write something like that!

Post by **Richard B** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:04 pm

Whatever happened we will find out sooner or later,
what I will say thou is for all base snappers, spotters etc be very cautious of your surroundings.
Stay in a good group report anything suspicious, a group standing on the mound say could be a nice target.

be safe and vigilant.

Post by **page_verify** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:09 pm

Jem60, I don't think anyone would disagree with your suggestions about the possible causes of this incident nor deny that they're valid thoughts to have, but I wonder whether they're the type of thing people are ready to be discussing so openly so soon after the event? In case it helps clarify some of the responses to your previous posts, I suspect not.

Post by **TS010** » Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:53 am

Just throwing a rock into a pool, and possibly causing ripples.
There were, it seems, no witnesses to this event. Could the person involved have been attention seeking??. It wouldn't be the first time this has happened. Unlikely, I would have thought, but a possibility nevertheless. Speculation at best, I know, and I am not condemning anyone. Just refer to my first sentence.

This sort of wild speculation is totally inappropriate at the present time, in the same way speculating about the cause of an aircraft going down is frowned upon (rightly so) until the full facts are known.
It may be a valid point but it is best kept out of a public forum in the short term.

deerhunter · Post by **deerhunter** » Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:42 am

But dont you think just keeping it shut might have been better. There are times when we all have thoughts that are best kept to ourselves.

I have encountered police on a few occasions and they lied, yes believe me it does happen.

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