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Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by gnirtS » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:44 pm

Great war display team cancelled due to rain.
The USAF heritage p51 cancelled.

Jordanian falcons got cancelled to catch up some time.

Sun shining now.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by Nighthawke » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:48 pm

Usernamegoeshere wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:40 pm
i hear rumour trump was due to be shown the flypast today, was that a load of
He is currently giving a joint press conference at Chequers with the PM then to WIndsor Catle for tea with Her Majesty.

Thus your rumour was probably just that. Shame about the weather - shades of April 1st 1993.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by Usernamegoeshere » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:37 pm

thanks :clap:

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A mix of 27 and 09 today it seems. Over the weekend it's looking like it'll be 27 throughout.

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Post by eagle driver » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:53 pm

Knife 71 Inbound showing as CV-22 11-0058.
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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by XM192 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:56 pm

Does anyone know what's in the RAF100 flypast on Sunday? Is it the 7 Typhoons, 5 Tornados, 3 F-35s and the BBMF or is there more? There was no detail about what we should have had today but I got the impression it was much bigger than that and was wondering if I go ion Sunday will I see what I missed or just something much smaller.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by MRTT » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:58 pm

Diamond 9 of Typhoon and a special 617 Salute of Lancaster, Tornado & F-35.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by XM192 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:07 pm

MRTT wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:58 pm
Diamond 9 of Typhoon and a special 617 Salute of Lancaster, Tornado & F-35.
Thanks. Just wondering if I should do it all over again on Sunday.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by MRTT » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:40 am

B-2 is back! :clap:

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Post by Blackcat1 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:42 am

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Post by gnirtS » Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:18 am

MRTT wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:40 am
B-2 is back! :clap:
Which day?

After the disaster of yesterday (cancellations, crap photo weather and discovering nobody displayed anywhere right of crowd centre) im considering going again Sunday. I might if the B-2 is around.

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Post by Mike » Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:20 am

gnirtS wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:18 am
MRTT wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:40 am
B-2 is back! :clap:
Which day?

After the disaster of yesterday (cancellations, crap photo weather and discovering nobody displayed anywhere right of crowd centre) im considering going again Sunday. I might if the B-2 is around.
Today. :- http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/v ... 5#p1011495

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Post by gnirtS » Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:55 am

Typical. Im still 50/50 about tomorrow. B-2 would have swung it.

On a related note, is there ANYWHERE crowd centre where the public can get to the crowdline for photos that isnt in a private enclosure? That was the main killer i found for images, anything around that area i failed to get as couldnt get anywhere near centre.

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Post by Dan213 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:00 am

gnirtS wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:55 am
Typical. Im still 50/50 about tomorrow. B-2 would have swung it.

On a related note, is there ANYWHERE crowd centre where the public can get to the crowdline for photos that isnt in a private enclosure? That was the main killer i found for images, anything around that area i failed to get as couldnt get anywhere near centre.
In between the viewing village and the FRIAT grandstand is just to the left of crowd centre. The right-most part of this area is effectively on crowd centre

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Post by steamy » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:00 pm

Had a great day Friday... was last at RIAT 3/4 years ago.. much more variety this time round.

Yeah the cancellations and rain was pants, but got to see lot I've never seen before, so I was still impressed..

French Navy Rafale duo, Swiss F-18 and the Sukoi were top for me..

bit of an observation, and may be completely wrong, but is the F-35 much less manouverable than it's 4gen counterparts? the display seemed very wide and sluggish. Accelleration though was amazing, there were one or two occasions when the jet accellerated away from the crowd and it was FAST ! Also, the commentary was a proper sales pitch, I did feel like I wanted to buy one after it :D
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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by seven » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:33 pm

It was not a display!

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Post by steamy » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:16 pm

just a filler was it?
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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by seven » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:22 pm

Technically yes actually :lol:

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by gnirtS » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:12 pm

steamy wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:00 pm
Had a great day Friday... was last at RIAT 3/4 years ago.. much more variety this time round.

Yeah the cancellations and rain was pants, but got to see lot I've never seen before, so I was still impressed..

French Navy Rafale duo, Swiss F-18 and the Sukoi were top for me..

bit of an observation, and may be completely wrong, but is the F-35 much less manouverable than it's 4gen counterparts? the display seemed very wide and sluggish. Accelleration though was amazing, there were one or two occasions when the jet accellerated away from the crowd and it was FAST ! Also, the commentary was a proper sales pitch, I did feel like I wanted to buy one after it :D
I was really unimpressed by the F-35A but was giving it some benefit of the doubt in that he wasnt meant to solo display so probably had things planned around the P51 and may well need display authorisation for anything more. Reminded me of typhoons first displays when it was engine and g limited.

Also not sure what the pilots plan was, he spent a lot of the time out behind the crowd line of the car parks. Display consisted of 30 seconds of a pass, roll or climb then 2 mins respositioning while we were subject to some fairly crappy american rock music.

It may have been a last minute "Do something, anything" display within the restrictions allowed in that. If it wasn't then yeah theres no excuse. F-35 is a dog for sure but the -A variant is capable enough to put on a display (way more than the -B we got).
The V-22 i thought could have done much more of a show than he did with the aircraft.
Display team wise the Swiss were very good technically, the Frecce Tricolori were very very good. The Aguila i think hampered by a flat display weather but their commentator has to win an award for enthusiasm - the guy was full of it but always sounded genuinely surprised when they did something.

There was some good flying, no use of flares and pyro which they had at Yeovilton disappointed a bit, the CF18 and Belgian were good again but the Rafale solo and the SU-27 was fantastic examples of a "busy" non stop high energy display.
Weather really limited photo ops though, combined with me failing to find anywhere crowd centre to position myself.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by GoldenEagle » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:45 pm

Well, if you're not able to come today and missed the B2 : you missed nothing.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by Andyperkins » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:57 pm

gnirtS wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:12 pm
steamy wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:00 pm
Had a great day Friday... was last at RIAT 3/4 years ago.. much more variety this time round.

Yeah the cancellations and rain was pants, but got to see lot I've never seen before, so I was still impressed..

French Navy Rafale duo, Swiss F-18 and the Sukoi were top for me..

bit of an observation, and may be completely wrong, but is the F-35 much less manouverable than it's 4gen counterparts? the display seemed very wide and sluggish. Accelleration though was amazing, there were one or two occasions when the jet accellerated away from the crowd and it was FAST ! Also, the commentary was a proper sales pitch, I did feel like I wanted to buy one after it :D
I was really unimpressed by the F-35A but was giving it some benefit of the doubt in that he wasnt meant to solo display so probably had things planned around the P51 and may well need display authorisation for anything more. Reminded me of typhoons first displays when it was engine and g limited.

Also not sure what the pilots plan was, he spent a lot of the time out behind the crowd line of the car parks. Display consisted of 30 seconds of a pass, roll or climb then 2 mins respositioning while we were subject to some fairly crappy american rock music.

It may have been a last minute "Do something, anything" display within the restrictions allowed in that. If it wasn't then yeah theres no excuse. F-35 is a dog for sure but the -A variant is capable enough to put on a display (way more than the -B we got).
The V-22 i thought could have done much more of a show than he did with the aircraft.
Display team wise the Swiss were very good technically, the Frecce Tricolori were very very good. The Aguila i think hampered by a flat display weather but their commentator has to win an award for enthusiasm - the guy was full of it but always sounded genuinely surprised when they did something.

There was some good flying, no use of flares and pyro which they had at Yeovilton disappointed a bit, the CF18 and Belgian were good again but the Rafale solo and the SU-27 was fantastic examples of a "busy" non stop high energy display.
Weather really limited photo ops though, combined with me failing to find anywhere crowd centre to position myself.
Flares are never allowed at Fairford so no surprise there.

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