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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by Thunder » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:54 pm

TankBuster wrote:
XPLUMBER wrote:They can't please everybody!
They certainly won't be, which I thought would be the purpose of a farewell tour?

I really cant understand why Suffolk & Norfolk have been cut off the route, especially considering the many ideal viewing locations in both counties. How can VTTS expect to get donations from those areas when they have clearly been excluded from this provisional southern route plan :( .

TankBuster

You feel left out !! I suggest you take a look at the so called Northern route which leaves out 99% of Scotland, more or less East Fortune and back South again, absolute disgrace. :grr:

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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by Unknown74 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:24 pm

Too right Thunder. Agree with that 100%.......

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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by TankBuster » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:01 pm

Thunder wrote:
TankBuster wrote:
XPLUMBER wrote:They can't please everybody!
They certainly won't be, which I thought would be the purpose of a farewell tour?

I really cant understand why Suffolk & Norfolk have been cut off the route, especially considering the many ideal viewing locations in both counties. How can VTTS expect to get donations from those areas when they have clearly been excluded from this provisional southern route plan :( .

TankBuster

You feel left out !! I suggest you take a look at the so called Northern route which leaves out 99% of Scotland, more or less East Fortune and back South again, absolute disgrace. :grr:
I don't feel left out at all, as a couple of locations are only an hours drive for me, but tbh I don't think I can really be @rsed with driving out just to see 558 appear and then disappear, hardly seems worth the 2hr round trip!
I was just highlighting the fact that the provisional southern route has chopped off most of East Anglia, and as you have quite rightly said they seem to have missed Scotland altogether.

I wonder how many hours & engine cycles they saved when they had to cancel a few shows last month? Surely there is enough left to fly the Vulcan around the entire UK coastline? They haven't done that before & it would certainly grab some attention!


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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by footes » Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:44 pm

The South West from Bristol down has been totally left out as has a lot of the south cost.

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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by TankBuster » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:07 pm

I notice on the twitter feed that XH558 has been up and about today. From what I gather, this was a short notice flight for an air to air sortie?

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Vulcan Flying - 2 October

Post by cbyman » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:48 pm

Vulcan been flying over South Lincs today prior to passes over the opening ceremony of the Bomber Command Memorial at Lincoln at approx. 1pm, then appeared to do practice display in Scampton area before heading home

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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by Jazz » Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:48 pm

A quite strongly worded statement from VTTS today.
Interesting that... "It is hoped that, weather allowing, the final few flights will be after the tour, later in October."

Full statement on http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/706/ ... -risk.html...

Final flights at risk Oct 2, 2015 by Ian Homer.

Final flights will be cancelled if increasingly large crowds risk blocking vital safety routes at Robin Hood. Please do not come to see XH558 take-off and land.

A meeting earlier this week between the Trust, the Emergency Services including the South Yorkshire Police, Doncaster Council and the Airport has made it clear that XH558’s huge popularity could put her final flights at risk.

The clear message from all of them is that unless supporters choose other ways to see her fly, the Trust will be asked to cancel further flying. Correspondence has been received that also makes it clear that the Trust could also be liable for very substantial costs if safety is deemed to be at risk. “The situation we find ourselves in is a tremendous complement to the passion and energy of XH558’s supporters, many of whom have donated time and money to allow her to fly,” says Trust chief executive Dr. Robert Pleming. “As someone who has devoted a significant portion of his life to this aircraft, I fully understand. But I must ask everyone please, do not come to Robin Hood to see her take-off and land. If you do, and the numbers are vast, the police have stated that they may well have no option but to lock down the airport, the financial consequences of which to the Trust would be terminal.”

Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield is an operational international airport that relies on free passenger flow in and out. If there is an incident with an aircraft, emergency services must have fast, uninterrupted access. The police have told us that they have a legal responsibility to ensure that emergency access points are clear of obstructions. Emergency services have pointed out that fire and ambulance access to local homes must be guaranteed.

Steve Gill, director of Doncaster Sheffield Airport said: "We are extremely proud to have the last flying Vulcan based at Doncaster Sheffield Airport and have worked closely with the team at the VTST around her last flights. "They are providing a number of opportunities for spectators and loyal supporters to see the Vulcan in her last flying tours. These opportunities will be right across the country and have been designed so that they do not cause disruption at Doncaster Sheffield Airport.

"As an operational airport our number one priority is our passengers and our relationships with our airline partners. We urge people to listen to the pleas from the Vulcan team and the police and not travel to Doncaster to see the Vulcan but to maximise the opportunities available elsewhere."

Police Supt Rollitt states, although I understand the passion of the supporters of the Vulcan, over the past few months as we approach its final flights, more and more spectators have turned up at events where the Vulcan has been. This has started to overwhelm local authorities and emergency services. My first priority is ensuring the safety of all road users and local communities. Doncaster airport is a small commercial airport that can accommodate its passengers, however the infrastructure around it cannot accommodate a large influx of people hoping to see the Vulcan. The Vulcan trust have worked with us to satisfy the safety issue by providing a flight timetable to ensure that members of the public will get see the final flights from other vantage points around the country.

Caroline Rollitt
Superintendent
Joint Specialist Operations (Uniform)
South Yorkshire Police

Spectacular Final Cross-Country Tour

Chief Pilot Martin Withers is spending time optimising the North and South Tours planned for October 10 and 11 so that as many people as possible can see her fly at least one more time. “Both flights are now amongst the longest she has undertaken since the restoration,” says Martin. “We will be releasing the routes next week as soon as they are approved by all the relevant external authorities.”

Flight information via Twitter and Facebook will be the main mechanisms for ensuring that XH558’s supporters know where she is and where she is heading. Do please try to witness these wonderful final cross-country flights, rather than travelling to Doncaster. It is hoped that, weather allowing, the final few flights will be after the tour, later in October.

For the avoidance of doubt, contrary to speculation seen on the internet, there will be no Vulcan sortie on Sunday 18th October.

“It is absolutely imperative that we show the airport and the emergency services that XH558’s supporters are responsible, understand the safety needs of the airport and will willingly forego attempts to see a take-off or landing at Doncaster,” concludes Robert Pleming. “We must start immediately, with this weekend’s flight, and show the authorities that we should be allowed to continue to fly this remarkable aircraft as long as we are able to delight all her supporters across the country.”
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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by PR9 » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:29 pm

Here we go...
MISSING - x1 Air Force.
If found please return to the UK.

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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by Cooper1812 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:31 am

Thunder wrote:
TankBuster wrote:
XPLUMBER wrote:They can't please everybody!
They certainly won't be, which I thought would be the purpose of a farewell tour?

I really cant understand why Suffolk & Norfolk have been cut off the route, especially considering the many ideal viewing locations in both counties. How can VTTS expect to get donations from those areas when they have clearly been excluded from this provisional southern route plan :( .

TankBuster

You feel left out !! I suggest you take a look at the so called Northern route which leaves out 99% of Scotland, more or less East Fortune and back South again, absolute disgrace. :grr:


Northern Ireland flag waver here. Seems we don't exist at all. As usual. :'(

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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by stainless » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:19 pm

Hi All

I'm currently on hols in the Lakes, travelling back south in a few days time. This should give me the opportunity (weather permitting etc) to catch the Vulcan either 'up north' or 'down south'.

Do we know yet which way around the north/south flights are on 10th/11th ? (I get the impression it's north first then south - could someone comment on that please.)

Would be just great to have my last sight of her blasting through Thirlmere or Windermere - but it'll probably be raining...

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by kph100 » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:20 pm

stainless wrote:Hi All

I'm currently on hols in the Lakes, travelling back south in a few days time. This should give me the opportunity (weather permitting etc) to catch the Vulcan either 'up north' or 'down south'.

Do we know yet which way around the north/south flights are on 10th/11th ? (I get the impression it's north first then south - could someone comment on that please.)

Would be just great to have my last sight of her blasting through Thirlmere or Windermere - but it'll probably be raining...

Thanks,
Steve

Confirmed, North Saturday and South Sunday

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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by Apollo » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:57 pm

Announcement on BBC radio Lincolnshire just after 5.30 pm.
Sent from my goredly stained keyboard.

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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by TankBuster » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:20 pm

What the hell!!!

I've just seen the southern route map for Sunday... East Anglia has been totally left off the route, terrible planning in my opinion, especially when considering all of the military aviation history in that part of the country. I'm glad I didn't donate this time :@ .

There will also be two further flights after this weekend, in October, but no confirmation of when or where yet?

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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by lynnallen » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:27 pm

TankBuster wrote:What the hell!!!

I've just seen the southern route map for Sunday... East Anglia has been totally left off the route, terrible planning in my opinion, especially when considering all of the military aviation history in that part of the country. I'm glad I didn't donate this time :@ .

There will also be two further flights after this weekend, in October, but no confirmation of when or where yet?

TankBuster
Disappointing (to say the least) for South West England as well. I don't think the two further flights will be coming this way either !

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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by Mike » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:44 pm

Stop moaning about the SW of England - it's supposed to be a "National" tour, since when did the Nation finish at East Fortune (and not forgetting about Northern Ireland)?

"National Tour" my a**e. :roll:

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Post by NAM Updater » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:52 pm

Please be aware that Newark Air Museum will not be able to provide additional parking for this weekend’s Vulcan Tour on Sunday 11th October – more information in here http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/Vulcan_Farewell_Tour
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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by Surfrdan » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:12 pm

Bye bye to that lovely coastal lap of Wales then and just a quick visit to St. Athan to fly over the Black Buck :(

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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by andygolfer » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:18 pm

Mike wrote:Stop moaning about the SW of England - it's supposed to be a "National" tour, since when did the Nation finish at East Fortune
nearly did just over a year ago!
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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by andygolfer » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:22 pm

and there's a photo competition re the Vulcan on Civilian Aviation (it is civil registered now!), I've put up a prize of a canvas print of the winning pic so there will be an almost last chance to get a photo to enter this weekend

http://www.civilianaviation.co.uk/forum ... 10&t=22999
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Re: possible October farewll tour announced in newsletter

Post by Synchro Pair » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:00 pm

Disappointing that the confirmed routes, no longer contain overflights of the North Wales coastline.
"....with the help of smoke and mirrors"

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