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jem60
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CAUTIONARY TALE

Post by jem60 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:29 am

Just a reminder about safety when taking pictures. Yesterday, a Cessna 172 left it's overshoot too late, ran off the end of the runway, crossed a road, and hit a group of bystanders, killing 3 and injuring 8. Remember. Undershoot and overshoot areas are for aircraft NOT people. Stay safe out there!.

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Re: CAUTIONARY TALE

Post by C24 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:54 am

A good idea to post such info but probably blowing in the wind.
Yesterday whilst waiting at a round-a-bout I watched an approaching car, driver with large phone in left hand, brake heavily, enter the round-a-bout, moved hand to change gear, returned the phone to her ear and exit, missing the bollard.
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Re: CAUTIONARY TALE

Post by Supra » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:37 am

A salutary tale that will affect most peoples attitude to risk not one iota! You wouldn't stand in the middle of a major road with approaching traffic hoping the adjacent traffic light will turn red, but people continuously stand in the known trajectory of something going as fast if not faster. :roll:
My next comment is bound to inflame some, but hey!... Doesn't this event serve to demonstrate the futility of the overbearing CAA Restrictions on Aviation Events, when such events as described by Jem60 occur?
Something had to be done post-Shoreham to appease the multitude, but all the time 'innocents' can do as they please, nobody can ever legislate for accidents! :O

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Re: CAUTIONARY TALE

Post by big john » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:25 pm

There is no such thing as an accident any more.
Definition of an accident "an event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause".
Police now call them Road Traffic Collisions. and the courts always attribute blame to such things. If someone bumps into you, they say 'sorry it was an accident', It wasn't, they weren't concentrating on where they were going, If Humans are involved its not classed as an accident.
Where there is blame then legislation is required to mitigate or compensate for similar incidents.
Being stupid is no longer seen as a mitigating reason. You now have to prevent stupids from placing themselves in a position of risk.
Blood chits as they were known are no longer valid. In the good old days people accepted a level of risk, but now due to the compensation culture now prevalent in the world, a position of risk is not acceptable to the courts and law makers.
If you put up a 10ft high fence to prevent people accessing an area, and an incident occurs because stupid climbed over the fence, then you will be blamed for not making the fence unclimbable.
I know Shoreham was different, but the pilot wasn't concentrating fully, and people died and legislation was required to try to prevent a re-occurrence from such a lack of concentration.
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Re: CAUTIONARY TALE

Post by MiG_Eater » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:35 pm

Further legislation was not required as a result of the Shoreham crash. Legislation was utterly pointless since the pilot (so it seems) was already breaking the legislation that had already been written!

All that is required is a bit more common sense and the acceptance that to get any value from life at all, risks must often be taken.

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