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Eurofighter - accidental missile shot.
Eurofighter - accidental missile shot.
What a headline to start one's day with!
Fighter jet accidentally fires missile in Estonia
"A Spanish fighter jet has accidentally fired a missile during a training exercise in Estonia. A Eurofighter Typhoon from the Spanish Air Force accidentally launched an AMRAAM air-to-air missile in a practice area in southern Estonia on Tuesday. Estonia's military says it is looking for the remains of the missile which was fired during a drill in the airspace of the Baltic country and NATO ally".
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/fi ... spartanntp
Fighter jet accidentally fires missile in Estonia
"A Spanish fighter jet has accidentally fired a missile during a training exercise in Estonia. A Eurofighter Typhoon from the Spanish Air Force accidentally launched an AMRAAM air-to-air missile in a practice area in southern Estonia on Tuesday. Estonia's military says it is looking for the remains of the missile which was fired during a drill in the airspace of the Baltic country and NATO ally".
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/fi ... spartanntp
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Guess which pilot is footing the bar bill in the mess!
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Looks like a German aircraft used for the picture in the report !!
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That is the one bill, the other bill may well be his farewell bill as he says goodbye to his mates and the Spanish air Force. At best he will be lucky to get a transfer to desk flying duties.Ghost from above wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:17 amGuess which pilot is footing the bar bill in the mess!
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Bet that generated some paperwork.
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I guess that's easy enough to say, but in these open days of Human Factors awareness, Openess, high workload, environmental pressures etc etc, it is far from obvious to simply say remove him (or her).Tally-ho wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:41 amThat is the one bill, the other bill may well be his farewell bill as he says goodbye to his mates and the Spanish air Force. At best he will be lucky to get a transfer to desk flying duties.Ghost from above wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:17 amGuess which pilot is footing the bar bill in the mess!
I would bet that this Pilot will double and triple check switch positions in the future, therefore making him one of the safest pilots in this situation in the longer term.
I recall an incident some years ago where a Swedish FJ Pilot landed with the gear up. After a few sorties in the Simulator, his Sqn Cdr was adamant that he return to flying duties for the reason above.
There may be much more behind the story to date; but to sever a career based on one incident, which, if correctly handled would make an individual a much safer person in the future seems a little hasty to me.
The world of Human Factors is both fascinating and eye-opening.
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REHEAT. I could not agree more with your post.Regards, John. Remembering, of course, that an R.A.F. Phantom once shot a Jaguar down. Pilot was reprimanded, and kept on flying duties. [One of my ex- pupils was his 'Prisoner's Friend' at his Court Martial in Germany..]
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'promote' the pilot to a desk
Lucky the missile didn't find something to hit
Lucky the missile didn't find something to hit
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Slogen. Just edited my previous post. have a quick look. Regards, John.
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Just had a flashback to my earlier career when I read something about the financial costs involved in training a FJ Pilot.
Again, this would be a huge waste to the system by taking an experienced airman out of the Fg scenario for one incident.
Let's wait and see what happens.
As an analogy, my old boss (a wise old sage), likened a similar event, by saying - "if you bought the worlds most expensive football defender for say £50m, and he unfortunately scored an own goal in the first 10 minutes whilst doing his best to defend his own goal, would you immediately substitute him and keep him on the bench for the rest of the season..."?
Again, this would be a huge waste to the system by taking an experienced airman out of the Fg scenario for one incident.
Let's wait and see what happens.
As an analogy, my old boss (a wise old sage), likened a similar event, by saying - "if you bought the worlds most expensive football defender for say £50m, and he unfortunately scored an own goal in the first 10 minutes whilst doing his best to defend his own goal, would you immediately substitute him and keep him on the bench for the rest of the season..."?
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And before somebody says it... I'm well aware Arsenal already tried to do that with Pascal Cygan...
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And the hercules wheels up by mistake at Brize.That one wrote the aircraft off.
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Re: Eurofighter - accidental missile shot.
Might be worth bearing in mind that even incidents like this are not always pilot error...
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I remember hearsay about a crew planting a 14kg practice bomb somewhere near a desert village during the GW1 build up, last I heard the front seater was an Air Commodore! It was always pointed out that if you screwed up they put a ‘RED’ marker on your personnel record, mind you guess what colour marker they put on if you were a star! Yep RED!
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many of you guys would be far too young to remember when an RAF Phantom, accidentally shot down a Jaguar ,over Germany.
But these things happen
But these things happen
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The ?Voyager ? Pilot whose camera lodged in the stick left the RAF.
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Thank God the missile didn't enter Russian airspace
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C24. The Voyager pilot left the R.A.F. certainly. If I remember correctly, he was asked to resign, not because he left his camera blocking the side stick, but because he lied at the subsequent investigation.
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