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RAF wants to replace E3D

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by PeteHemsley » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:42 pm

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PR9 wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:26 pm
PeteHemsley wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:59 pm
PR9 wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:36 am
Will double the cost by requesting probe refuelling system and getting the MAA to certify it. :whistle:
Double the cost? From what info do you base this statement on?
T'was tongue in cheek.

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by Ghost from above » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:16 pm

4000 mile range almost negates in flight refuelling
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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by Thunder » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:55 pm

Unless you have to transit 500 miles, then stay on station for several hours before returning the 500 miles to your operating base.

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by Chris IL-76 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:23 am

Beriev A50 is the only option.

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by tm74sqn » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:26 am

PeteHemsley wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:23 am
It makes logical sense to purchase the wedge tail. A massive cut in maintenance costs and engineering support, not to mention parts supply. If the fleet used the same airframe/engine type for AEW and MPA.
Would it also make economic sense to base them at the same airfield? Waddington perhaps . . . .

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by Ghost from above » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:13 pm

Reported in many places that the United Kingdom must hold a fair and open competition before selecting any new surveillance aircraft to replace its current Boeing E-3D Sentry airborne warning and control system (AWACS), the country’s parliament has said.
Jane's take on it via below link
http://www.janes.com/article/81497/uk-m ... ent-states
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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by baz1 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:13 am

tm74sqn wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:26 am
PeteHemsley wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:23 am
It makes logical sense to purchase the wedge tail. A massive cut in maintenance costs and engineering support, not to mention parts supply. If the fleet used the same airframe/engine type for AEW and MPA.
Would it also make economic sense to base them at the same airfield? Waddington perhaps . . . .
hopefully we should get the Aussie WedgeTail at Waddington after Riat
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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by Ghost from above » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:09 pm

Airbus keen to offer a viable alternative based on the SAAB Erieye airborne surveillance radar on one of there airframes.

https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... il-for-uk/
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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by Ghost from above » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:05 pm

Reuters reporting that UK nears decision to buy Boeing AWACS planes

https://uk.reuters.com/article/britain- ... KL8N1U86BN
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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by steamy » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:13 pm

was in the RAF E-3 at RIAT... It is OOOOLLLDD... fair play to the flight crew for keeping it going. tough work on the flight deck too, haven't seen a flight engineer and navigation officer seat in the cockpit for years..

Big thing they said was an issue is spares for the aircraft... there's only so much in house repairs and only so much money to get parts manfactured before things burst through into the red...

If they get even 1 Wedgetail (or whichever) fairly quick, they can cull the replaced aircraft for parts and continue with a 1 for 1 replacement quiet smoothly.
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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by jamesg23 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:32 am

Wouldnt be surprised if another e3 is retired soon for spares. I think the cost of operating them is through the roof because of spares.

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by iainpeden » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:05 pm

Rumour going around FRIAT on Saturday was that the PM was at Fairford to sign the contract hence the need to get the RAAF Wedgetail there despite the problem in Hawaii.

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by MRTT » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:37 pm

Highly doubt the PM was present but, the Defence Secretary was in attendance on Friday.

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by Unknown74 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:52 pm

Would an AWACS version of the RAFs Sentinel be an option?

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by seven » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:43 am

Yes but not a sensible one. E-7 is the best option available for us.

Now how about an AWACS based C-130.. If only...

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by seven » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:59 am

Not off the shelf though ;)

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by nickowen » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:08 pm

Ghost from above wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:13 pm
the United Kingdom must hold a fair and open competition before selecting any new surveillance aircraft to replace its current Boeing E-3D Sentry
The UK Government held a fair and open competition for the Jet Provost replacement, then had to rewrite AST.412 when the wrong aircraft won.

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by Seahornet1 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:15 pm

nickowen wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:08 pm
Ghost from above wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:13 pm
the United Kingdom must hold a fair and open competition before selecting any new surveillance aircraft to replace its current Boeing E-3D Sentry
The UK Government held a fair and open competition for the Jet Provost replacement, then had to rewrite AST.412 when the wrong aircraft won.
How very American of us.... :whistle:

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Re: RAF wants to replace E3D

Post by Davef68 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:18 pm

E7 spending some time at Waddington this week - "This is what you could have"

Allied to a VSO telling the Defence Committee we need another 7 P-8s and a boom equipped tanker force....

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