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F35 noise protest

Post by 22A » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:56 am

Burlington, Vermont earlier this week.
There is an airfield at the edge of the town and £83 million has been spent upgrading it to accommodate F35s.
The locals reckon it's too noisy for a residential area so staged a protest in town with the noise of F35s played over a PA system to prove their point.
Several arrests were made for disorderly conduct.

https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/sto ... 391987002/

Police told the activists they were violating the ordinance and would be getting tickets earlier in the day, Cohen said around noon after playing the noise for six minutes, adding that people had complained about the disruption. "Of course, that's exactly the point," Cohen said.

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by turmo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:40 pm

I'm not too surprised. DoD measurements pegged the F-35A as perceptually 'twice' as loud as the F-16C ( F100-PW-220 engine ) on take-off and landing and still a bit louder louder than the 'PW-229 variant.

An unpleasant return to the noise levels of the F-105 and A-6 era!

The F-35 also has a much bassier engine noise which has been blamed for some structural damage to houses in the Netherlands.

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by jem60 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:08 pm

Burlington, Vermont is a lovely place. Never thought I would see it mentioned on FC!. Spent a delightful candlelit dinner overlooking the Susquhanna river with my equally delightful wife many, many years [42 to be exact] ago, at The Treadway Inn. Very peaceful place. Can't have it disturbed by noisy aeroplanes!!!, especially ugly ones!!. ;) ;)

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by Rory76 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:08 pm

It is a fantastically noisy beast- and the whine off the lift fan engine is earsplitting over head

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by Blackcat1 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:03 pm

FUGLY & FUNGRY (Fuel Hungry ;-)) don't think I will ever be a fan
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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by toom317 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:29 am

I seem to recall that our F35's were going to be based at Lossie, and part of the reason was because of the noise problem.
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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by Richard E » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:59 pm

And isn't one of the plans under consideration for the future that USAFE will base F-35 at RAF Lakenheath and, once it is closed, the land occupied by RAF Mildenhall will be redeveloped for housing?

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by Contrail1958 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:13 pm

toom317 wrote:I seem to recall that our F35's were going to be based at Lossie, and part of the reason was because of the noise problem.
Yeah we like our peace and quiet. That's the reason the airfield always seems closed to most folk.
Two or three Typhoons at most. :lol:

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by Seaking93 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:50 pm

That's why the RN/RAF F35's are being based at RAF Marham, some years ago an environmental impact assessment was carried out at Yeovilton, the results showed that despite all the noise reduction items built into the local houses during the Sea Harrier years the noise footprint of the F35B was going to be so large as to make the cost of basing them here untenable.

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by Vulcanone » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:24 pm

So essentially the folk who say.....

Ah Jet noise the sound of freedom will be drowned out by

blah blah blah Its too noisy.....

Best not move to Norfolk then especially if the RAF ends up with F-35As as well..... :whistle:

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by paddyboy » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:24 am

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by welshandy » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:54 am

Just came back from Center Parc's Elveden Forest. In their Guest info Book they mention the Aircraft noise from LN & MH & still while we were there Guest's were complaining about it. It's going to get a whole lot worse with the F35's.

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by Seahornet1 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:35 am

Blackcat1 wrote:FUGLY & FUNGRY (Fuel Hungry ;-))...
That's a perfect description of its EE namesake, which has never had any fans, has it...? ;)

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by Andy_99 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:39 pm

welshandy wrote:Just came back from Center Parc's Elveden Forest. In their Guest info Book they mention the Aircraft noise from LN & MH & still while we were there Guest's were complaining about it. It's going to get a whole lot worse with the F35's.
Bring on the Noise :P

If centre parcs have trouble getting people to fill the place I'm sure they'd have takers from here if they dropped the price.

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by Nighthawke » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:51 pm

If they think Center Parcs at Elveden is bad enough they should try living in Brandon under the 24 approach / 06 departure :lol:

Not sure whether I'm looking forward to F-35s or not!

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by britaylor » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:05 pm

People know where the airfields are why live near one when on nights then what will happen ?? try and close the base down

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by Nighthawke » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:10 pm

I quite agree, but if your comment was aimed at me you've got me wrong. I wasn't complaining - we moved knowing full well that the F-15s were there; in fact they were flying during most of our viewings in the area. I was merely comparing a short stay to permanent residency much nearer to the action. After 45 years of enjoying aviation I have no wish to see the base close.

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by Blackcat1 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:50 pm

Seahornet the EE Lightning was fuel hungry yes but not Ugly! ;-)
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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by britaylor » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:22 pm

Hi Nighthawke not aimed at you after 45 years you know what to expect I had it when the TTTE was at Cottesmore but people still whittle about them its the same with QRA flights

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Re: F35 noise protest

Post by tm74sqn » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:46 pm

toom317 wrote:I seem to recall that our F35's were going to be based at Lossie, and part of the reason was because of the noise problem.
The other part of the reason is that the F-35 is so noisy that it would drown out the noise of bagpipes!
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