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razzer56
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35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by razzer56 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:43 pm

Hi All,
Can any of you who have experience of scanning your own slides, please advise or recommend which is the best scanner to meet my situation.
I have hundreds of AGFA CT 18 /100 colour slides as well as loads of 35mm colour negatives to scan and I am looking for a machine that is compatible with Windows 10

I have received very good reports from a user of the Epson V 600 perfection scanner but when I investigated this product a little more it was suggested that this machine crops AGFA 35mm slides, some thing I clearly do not want.
I have also seen some good reports on this site of the Cannon 9000F Mk11. Do any of you have experience of scanning AGFA slides with this product please.
I would also like to ask if you recommend using a system such as Photoshop or the like to enhance the images and is this done after scanning.
Any advise greatly appreciated
M.T.I.A.
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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by jaybee » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:25 pm

Hi Razzer56,

I've also used that scanner, it also has problems with copying Kodachrome.! If you posses an Macro lens of around 60mm and have a digital camera, you can copy your own.
Just look on Google to get an idea and have a go. Its cheap, and you will learn a lot about light settings, apertures and have some fun along the way. https://www.scantips.com/es-1.html

All you need is to set a stand up in front of your camera lens, a light filter of sorts and hey presto, focus on the slide and use your live view if possible when focusing to
get things in sharp. Once you have made a small set up like that, switch the focus hold back to manual and use the self timer to reduce movement and see what you get.
Its pretty daunting at first, but once you have made your small set-up, it takes about 30 seconds or less to copy a slide. I'll attach a shot from one I copied today using this method and a link to help.
Good luck if you try it, its just a suggestion, but you can save pounds and have a lot of fun doing it... :thumb: P/s my set-up is pretty much like the Nikon set-up , under the "Other Ideas" paragraph.
You can use available light from a window, cloudy days are best to filter the right light, use aperture priority at F/8 and your self timer... :thumb:

ImageDSC_1567555 by John Bilcliffe, on Flickr

Last tip,it works best with well exposed and well colour saturated slides...(You can't make a silk purse from a sows ear) :unsure:
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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by paddyboy » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:39 am

Hi Buddy :P

I have the Canon scanner you are talking about, and my vast collection of 35mm slides is 90% Agfachrome :whistle:

I cannot praise it too highly, but I use only Windows 'hate' ;)

It comes with drivers and other editing software, and you are able to load other drivers down for free from the Canon website :thumb:

Wex are my go-to place for all my camera gear, as they are more than helpful and very competitive, price-wise :)

Hope this helps a bit ;)

Best regards :thumbs:

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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by razzer56 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:57 pm

Thanks for the replies guys
regards,
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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by jaybee » Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm

Hope the information from us both helps.
If you go the scanner route, I'd go for the one Paddy uses. I have used the V600 and its not all its cracked up to be!... :thumb:
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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by Knife 04 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:43 pm

Sorry - late to the party here

Agree with JBs post on taking a photo of the slide. The page appears to have gone now after a search but a chap called Roel Reijne had a page on his website with instructions on how to do it with a camera and light box, placing a large lens hood around the slide to prevent light from the sides. He achieved results like these using the method

http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA-Air- ... ird/627519

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Netherla ... ter/558001

Sorry cannot help on the scanner front as currently running a 15 year old Minolta scanner on an XP machine. Only using an older version of Photoshop elements but coming up with some reasonable results. Would recommend experimenting with the dust removal function of any scanning software though - adjusting carefully to esnure no details is lost. I know some say dont use but the time it takes to spot heal the scans is mind numbing! Unless anybody has any other ideas? One of mine from 1990 using the old scanner with dust removal on, windows XP & elements 9

ImageA-10 - 81-979 / AR - 10 TFW, RAF Alconbury by Darren Currie, on Flickr

All the best

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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by dollar99 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:49 pm

razzer56

What a question. I'll work backwards through your post if I may? Conventional wisdom was always to scan at the highest resolution possible and do all the tweaking in an editing programme afterwards. This has now subtly changed due to the advances in some of the scanning software. While many are happy with the software that comes with the scanner many of us use VueScan, which personally I find not only easier to use but easier to do some pre scan tweaks saving a bit of time. This software is Win 10 compatible and also allows some older scanners to continue to work very happily even if their software hasn't been updated.

I don't use a flatbed so not sure about the cropping issue, it certainly was a problem with one of the cheaper scanners I tried when I was deciding on mine. I scan mostly AGFA and Fuji in plastic mounts and have no trouble when using a Plustek 7600i, apart from when the film has been cut slightly off centre, but you can often remove them easily from the mounts and trim the edges. I have not seen cropping mentioned as an issue by my friends who use a variety of Canon and Epson products.

Your choice may well come down to how much time you want to spend doing this. My workflow churns out about 12 scans an hour, including editing the pictures for upload to Flickr, so it's not a quick process. Flatbeds allow you to scan multiple images at a time so you potentially can do the job a bit quicker. All the Flickr albums in the link below have been done on this setup mostly over the last 2 years, but I do have time to spend each day. While I agree with the comment about well exposed and saturated slides being best you can get very acceptable results from all sorts of colour casts and underexposed or overexposed slides with a bit of time effort and experimentation. BTW negatives tend to be more time consuming as the pick up no end of tiny scratches which can be quite noticeable when scanned.

If you are on Facebook I do run a little group dedicated to the black art of scanning, drop me a PM and I'll send you the link.

Good luck

Ian
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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by xkekeith » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:00 am

I use a second hand Proscan 7200 bought from eBay with VueScan software and some post scanning editing on my Mac. This scanner uses digital ICE technology to remove dust spots automatically which saves a lot of time. This is a 38 year old Kodak K64 slide rescued from the loft last week:

ImageGreenham Common Friday evening by Keith Heywood, on Flickr

There a load of others on my Flickr account.
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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by paul simmons » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:14 pm

If I could jump in on this thread and ask for some advise/help
I am using a Canon 9000f flatbed and have Fuji slides, the issue I get though is when scanning on autoscan the scanned images all have a blue tint which cannot be corrected post scanning in Coral. I was told that it's because the scanner uses daylight lamps but surely that can't be right

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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by dollar99 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:45 pm

paul simmons wrote:If I could jump in on this thread and ask for some advise/help
I am using a Canon 9000f flatbed and have Fuji slides, the issue I get though is when scanning on autoscan the scanned images all have a blue tint which cannot be corrected post scanning in Coral. I was told that it's because the scanner uses daylight lamps but surely that can't be right
Paul

Just about every slide I have has some sort of colour tint :S Have you tried taking it off autoscan and adjusting the settings? 9000f is very popular amongst the Dutch spotters I'm in contact with and it's not a problem I have seen raised, but that may be because they have a shared solution. I'll try asking on my Facebook group for you.

Ian
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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by paul simmons » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:51 am

dollar99 wrote:
paul simmons wrote:If I could jump in on this thread and ask for some advise/help
I am using a Canon 9000f flatbed and have Fuji slides, the issue I get though is when scanning on autoscan the scanned images all have a blue tint which cannot be corrected post scanning in Coral. I was told that it's because the scanner uses daylight lamps but surely that can't be right
Paul

Just about every slide I have has some sort of colour tint :S Have you tried taking it off autoscan and adjusting the settings? 9000f is very popular amongst the Dutch spotters I'm in contact with and it's not a problem I have seen raised, but that may be because they have a shared solution. I'll try asking on my Facebook group for you.

Ian
Many thanks Ian, I bought this scanner based on recommendations on the net but have been really disappointed in the results

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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by dollar99 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:39 am

Paul

I really wish scanning was simple, but it isn't :whistle:

First scan I got out of mine was brilliant, then couldn't get another one like it! I had been scanning for a few years with another slide scanner and couldn't understand it. Swapped to different scanning software and it was like chalk and cheese. But even then you have to be prepared to experiment and spend a bit of time. Depends on what outcome you are expecting, really good quality and you'll have to invest in time and probably software. A quick capture from your old slide and you can make do with auto everything but you really would notice the difference.

I've scanned over 10,000 now using the new(ish) scanner and I still come across things I don't expect, colour casts that shouldn't be there and sometimes the corrections can seem counter intuitive.

It is worth spending a bit of time on Google or trying to find a forum that specialises in scanning, the answer is probably quite simple, it's just finding it. I have thrown the question out to a couple of the groups I frequent but haven't had a answer from a 9000F user, if I do I'll let you know.

Ian
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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by warferry » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:22 pm

I use a Plustek OpticFilm 7200 bought 2nd hand for less than £100 .
Takes slides and negatives using a 4 position slide holder and a 6 position neg holder.
Has a quick scan option or multi set-up for personal options.
Lots of bells and whistles far exceeding my limited understanding.

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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by Photogenius » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:50 am

I find the Nikon Coolscan V a very effective 35mm scanner and works just great on any slide not Kodachrome when using the ICE system. On KR it removes anything black like the aircraft serial and of course it does not work on b/w negs either! When not using ICE it is very good but then it takes around 30 minutes per image to scan and then clean up afterwards which I do when enlarging the image to around 300 per cent. Card mounts produce a great deal of dust! I am looking for a good medium format scanner so any advice always welcome.

Peter

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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by Weazel69 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:45 pm

A Buddy of mine bought one can't remember which but the found on Amazon a Hire one which takes a 100 slides in a go and then gets on with it. As we both have ours stored in the Hanimex Rondex 120 holders or the Jessops eqivuelant he was going to see if he could hire one that would take those. I will update when I see him again
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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by GORDO47 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:11 pm

https://www.amazon.co.uk/RENTAL-Reflect ... B01DDNL2WU

Is this what you mean ?
Seems like a great idea.

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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by 68001pg » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:13 pm

I am new to scanning, I purchased a plustek 8200 a little while ago and at the moment I use the software that comes with it and photo shop and I am quiet pleased with the results. I have put some of my results on this group in the nostalgic photo section titled USAF C-9'S Of Yesteryear

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Re: 35mm Colour slide scanner

Post by palmdale jet » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:35 pm

Just purchased film/slide scanner from lidl for £25 easy to use and good results, back when the slides were taken i did not have the best kit and still look OK

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