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Ila 2016 Berlin

Post by TvanD » Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:09 pm

This is my rough log from the 1st of June, I could use some help to identify the RAF Voyager and the 3rd Eurofighter on the flight line at the end of this wednesday. Any help or addition is very welcome, Thank you.

EC-404 A-400M Airbus Airbus
*531/C-FGZI A-4N Discovery Air “Luftwaffe”
*532/C-FGZO A-4N Discovery Air “Luftwaffe”
10+27 Airbus310-304 FBS Luftwaffe
15+02 Airbus319 FBS Luftwaffe
*60+08 P-3C MFG3 Marine Flieger
31+07 Eurofighter 31 TLG Luftwaffe flightline
30+72 Eurofighter 31 TLG Luftwaffe flightline
3.+.. Eurofighter 74 TLG Luftwaffe flightline
*30+68 (spec cs 60 Jhr) Eurofighter nn Luftwaffe flying daarna flightline
*31+38 Eurofighter 31 TLG Luftwaffe
*31+32 Eurofighter 31 TLG Luftwaffe
*74+03 Tiger nn HEER
*74+06 Tiger nn HEER
*74+24 Tiger nn HEER flying
*74+28 Tiger nn HEER flying
*74+53 Tiger nn HEER
*84+97 CH-53G nn HEER
*85+03 CH-53G nn HEER flying green camo
*84+50 CH-53G nn HEER flying Bambi Bucket
*50+67 C-160D nn Luftwaffe
*46+50 "60 Jhr Luftw.” Tornado ECR nn Luftwaffe
44+79 "60 Jhr Luftw.” Tornado nn Luftwaffe
43+00? "60 Jhr Luftw.” Tornado nn Luftwaffe
86+25 Bo-105P nn Luftwaffe
*82+53 EC-135 HFWS HEER
82+54 EC-135 HFWS HEER
*76+04 H-145M nn Luftwaffe
*83+26 Lynx Mk88 MFG5 Marine Flieger
71+53 UH-1D SAR flight Luftwaffe flghtline
*71+91 UH-1D SAR flight Luftwaffe
*73+48 UH-1D nn HEER flying
*54+02 A-400M LTG62 Luftwaffe
*78+11 NH-90 nn HEER flying
*78+13 NH-90 nn HEER
*78+14 NH-90 nn HEER
*78+31 NH-90 nn HEER flying
*78+32 NH-90 nn HEER flying
*16701 CN-295 Esq752 Portugese AF
86-0111/EL B-1B 28th BW USAF
07-7187 "Charleston" C-17A 437th AW USAF "Spirit of Berlin"
*13-08132 CH-47F nn US Army
*12-5756 "The Rock" C-130J 19th AW USAF
MQ-9 nn USAF
*0218 M-28PT nn Polish AF
0224 M-28PT nn Polish AF arr ~13.25u
*3368 Mi24V 221.lbvr Czech AF
*023 CN-295M 13.eltr Polish AF
308 SU-22UM-3K nn Polish AF grey c/s
*111 Mig-29A 1. Elt Polish AF
105 Mig-29A 1. Elt Polish AF flying
LX-N90443 E-3A NAEWF NATO
0455 CN-295M 242.tsl Czech AF
*6060 L-159 nn Czech AF
9245 JAS-39C nn Czech AF
*ZH893 Chinook HC2 AAC
*ZZ... "MRTT029" Voyager KC.2 10/101 sqn RAF
*ZZ375 Wildcat HMA2 825 sqn RN flying
*ZZ515 Wildcat HMA2 825 sqn RN flying

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Re: Ila 2016 Berlin

Post by rh226 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:29 pm

The RAF Voyager is the one that will become ZZ343 some time in the future. However, when it flew up to Berlin, it was still flying under a Spanish hex code [344448] using callsign "AED329" and, of course, it is still using its Airbus MRTT... "serial" - so, still with Airbus.

Sorry I cannot be more definite about its current identity and status, but I hope that the above will be of some help to you.
Cheers, Bob

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Re: Ila 2016 Berlin

Post by slogen51 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:00 pm

Hi

I was there on Friday 3 June.

I couldn't read the serial of the TLG 74 EF2000 in the flight line but have a reasonable photo of the tail showing cn GS0033 which should make it 30+48

I was still in the area on Saturday and would really appreciate it if some knows the flying Germans from Saturday.

Ta
Mike

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Re: Ila 2016 Berlin

Post by TvanD » Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:08 pm

Many thanks guys!

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Re: Ila 2016 Berlin

Post by slogen51 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:14 pm

Just realised I didn't log tiger 74+53

Can you remember where it was? I have a feeling it was the one that kids could climb in and visit the cockpit etc

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Re: Ila 2016 Berlin

Post by TvanD » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:06 am

@slogan51 I think it was the Tiger inside the Bundeswehr tent but I'm not 100% sure.

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Re: Ila 2016 Berlin

Post by Keflavik69 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:10 am

Tiger 74-53 was in the line of helicopters of the Bundeswehr on the static on Saturday. The tiger you could climb in was 74-06. Tiger 74-03 was together with EF.2000 31-38 in the tent named Halle 3.

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Re: Ila 2016 Berlin

Post by slogen51 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:17 am

Cheers

I saw 74+03 in the hall . I must of seen 74+53 in the static line - that will do for me!!

(Did gatow on Sunday - some of the storage hangars were open)

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Re: Ila 2016 Berlin

Post by eagle driver » Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:59 am

Taken from a post on MSF this is the German flying aircraft listed for Saturday 4th june

10+24 gy A 310-304 MRTT (1./)FBS
30+50 gy GS0035 EF 2000 TaktLwG 73
30+56? gy EF 2000 TaktLwG 73
30+48 gy GS0033 EF 2000 TaktLwG 73
30+64 gy EF 2000 TaktLwG 73
30+70 gy GS0052 EF 2000 TaktLwG 73
30+55 gy EF 2000 TaktLwG 73
46+22 gy 4322 Tornado IDS (ASSTA-1) TaktLwG 33 - (buddy-tanker tact demo)
45+67 gy 4267 Tornado IDS (ASSTA-3.1) TaktLwG 33 - (buddy-receiver tact demo)
46+11 gy 4311 Tornado IDS (ASSTA-3.1) TaktLwG 33 - (recce light tact demo)
43+98 gy 4098 Tornado IDS (ASSTA-1) TaktLwG 33 - (recce light tact demo)
50+61 liz C-160D LTG 63
54+01 gy 018 A 400M LTG 62
73+48 liz UH-1D THR 30
74+24 liz Tiger UHT (ASGARD F version) no mks (KHR 36)
74+28 liz Tiger UHT (ASGARD F version) no mks (KHR 36)
78+11 liz NH 90 no mks?
78+29 liz NH 90 (FOC) HFlgWaS badge but with IntHubschrAusbZ now
78+32 liz NH 90 (FOC) no mks (THR 10)
87+55 liz 6155 Bo 105P1? HFlgWaS badge but with 'IntHubschrAusbZ Restflugbetrieb Bo 105 TE900 Celle' now - last Bo display at ILA
84+35 gr V65-033 CH-53GA no mks (HSG 64)
84+88 gr V65-086 CH-53GA no mks (HSG 64) - '60 Jahre Luftwaffe' logo

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Re: Ila 2016 Berlin

Post by slogen51 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:14 pm

Hi

Thanks for that posting. A similar one appears on Touchdown care of Johannes Schages.

I have made a mistake in an earlier posting about 30+48 having read the Johannes list and reexamined my pic I can see the cn is GS00053 not 33 so that does tie in with 30+72 (which I'd did log on Friday morning when 31+07 and 30+87 were displaying) but I did not note the unit! 30+72 was tlg31 at Fresian flag 2016.

So 30+72 TLG74 not 30+48 (which happened to be part of the flying anyway)

Hope that is clear as mud

Sorry

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Re: Ila 2016 Berlin

Post by chinny223 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:11 pm

Just a minor point, Chinook ZH893 is a HC4! There are no HC2s left in RAF service, they've all been upgraded.

*Edit, it's also RAF not AAC!

Hope that's helpful :thumb:

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Re: Ila 2016 Berlin

Post by slogen51 » Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:50 pm

Hi

The following is what I logged of the German flying display on Friday 3 June

Morning c11:00 to 11-45L
30+87 TLG 31
31+07 TLG 31
84+35 CH-53 Water Carrier
84+88 Ditto
78+11 NH90
73+48 UH-1D
30+56 TLG73
30+48 TLG73
74+28 Tiger
74+24 Tiger

Afternoon 15:30 to 16:00L
54+01 A400M
74+26 Tiger
74+24 Tiger
78+29 NH90
78+32 NH90
50+61 C160D

30+48 and 30+64 both TLG73
46+22 and 45+67 both TLG33
30+73 (pilot face on tail) and 30+56 both TLG73
46+11 and 43+98 both TLG33

Then at about 16:30L they took part in a flypast
10+24 , 46+11, 43+98, 30+64, 30+48
73+48, 74+26, 78+29, 78+32, 84+35, 84+88, 74+24,87+55

50+61 and 54+01
46+22 and 45+67 giver and receiver
30+73 and 30+56

44+23 JBG33 arrived at about 17:00 local

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