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ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

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ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by Kurnass » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:43 pm

This year the ILA Berlin seems to attract some interesting visitors. According to an interview at Aerobuzz.de, Lockheed Martin will bring CH-53K, C-130J, F-35, and Kawasaki sends P-1, C-2.
That’s all for the moment.

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by podge » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:52 pm

Sounds good, thanks for sharing the info :thumb:

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by Levente » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:28 pm

It should be mentioned that the F-35 and the Hercules both if arrive will do a dynamic program.

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by lambo1784 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:00 am

First list available,no mention yet of F-35

https://www.ila-berlin.de/en/aircraft

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by MRTT » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:39 am

CH-53K has arrived in Germany, according to a post on Twitter.
2018 Shows
Abingdon
Fly Navy
Cosford
Weston-S-Mare
Yeovilton
RIAT (MACH 3)
Kleine Brogel
Duxford September

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by verreli » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:21 pm

Poor list of aircraft so far; standout being the P1 and static (likely) A4's. I guess the multiple Tornados and Typhoons will put on a flypast although not listed as flying yet? Shame, was thinking of doing a day trip this year.

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by slogen51 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:04 pm

Doesn't look too bad , 10 typhoons and looks like 6 NH90 on the list and a few tigers

I went two years ago and saw a similar number of German EF2000. In my limited experience it was not that good for photography - the flying was into the sun and much of the static was close together. But if you do civil as well then it is worth the trip plus Gatow museum is not far.

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by Kurnass » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:25 pm

The website also has a flying programme for each day. Looks interesting if you’ll need some Bundeswehr aircraft. Like a special forces demo with 10 aircraft, flypast with 17. And more demo’s. All in all some nice quantities.


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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by Kurnass » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:24 pm

https://www.ila-berlin.de/en/aircraft

Participants list updated. Looks to be an interesting show

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by Apache123 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:42 pm

hi all, can you buy tickets on the day? im looking to go on the wednesday

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by podge » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:43 pm

I'm sure two years ago you could buy trade day tickets when you arrive and they were around €55.

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by The Cat » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:10 am

Trade tickets have always been available to buy on day previously

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by Typhoon3030 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:08 pm

Two P-1 Arrival today at Nordholz 5503 & 5508

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by plmc135 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:18 pm

Courtesy of Scramble the two F-35A's that arrived today are 11-5040 and 12-5054 from the 56 FW at Luke AFB and coded LF

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by slogen51 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:26 am

Hope they stay until the weekend :D

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by flyingslug_0 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:31 pm

Going tomorrow till Friday. Hope the weather improves.

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by plmc135 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:40 pm

slogen51 wrote:Hope they stay until the weekend :D
Perhaps they will have relocated to the Heath by then so that the German hoi polloi don't see what their Govt may be buying :Oops:

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Re: ILA Berlin April 25th-29th

Post by eagle driver » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:34 pm

Credit to Johannes and MSF for the list
Many thanks to Andy, Dennis, Ian, Jeff, Marijn, rj, Wolfgang and a very well-known gentleman informing me about the UH-1D cabin (which I might have missed otherwise...)!

Sequence is serial, colourscheme, c/n etc., built date where known, type, unit. Everything was read off, if mentioned (not including ILA show numbers).

Be aware that FSM, mock-ups or whatever You want to call them, are not given.

Bundeswehr Static:

10+25 gy 484 'Hermann Köhl' A 310-304 MRTT (1./)FBS
31+17 gy AS0010 EF 2000 ("Bk 3.73") TaktLwG 73 (731.sqn)
'43+00' gy (correct c/n port mainwheel fus bay plate reads 4061 Okt 1982, which again makes it 43+61) Tornado IDS (no mods) no mks (TAusbZLw Abt Süd Kaufbeuren, ex-Erding)
45+85 gy 4285 Tornado IDS (ASSTA-3.0) TaktLwG 33 (331.sqn)
46+36 gy 4336 Tornado ECR (ASSTA-3-1) TaktLwG 51
50+64 liz D-101 C-160D LTG 63 (arrived 24.04.)
54+07 gy MSN043 A 400M LTG 62 (dd 15.12.16)
60+03 gy 5745 P-3C (ex-CUP) (1./)MFG 3 (arrived 24.04.) Jester zap (Djibouti)
73+39 liz 8459 (70 III 297) (6/70) UH-1D no mks / SAR (THR 30)
(an additional UH-1D cockpit in a tent closeby is a pure training device, not from a flying example, but THANKS for advice...)
74+06 liz 1006 (2004) Tiger UHT (STEP 1) no mks (KHR 36)
74+11 liz 1011 (07/2008) Tiger UHT no mks (KHR 36)
76+03 dk gy to be verified again! (2015) H 145M (= BK 117D-2m) no mks (4./HSG 64)
78+28 liz TGEA0028 (1118) (10/2014) NH 90 (armed trsp) no mks (THR 10)
78+30 liz TGEA0030 (1120) (08/2015) NH 90 (Medevac) no mks (THR 10)
82+57 liz 0106 (2001) EC 135T1 old HFlgWaS badge but with IntHubschrAusbZ
83+25 gy/w 396 (07.01.00) Sea Lynx Mk 88A no mks (3./)MFG 5
84+35 gr "85033" CH-53GA HSG 64 (LTrspGrp Holzdorf)
89+62 gy/gy WA766 (18-01-74) Sea King Mk 41 (1./)MFG 5
90+80 gy 238 LUNA no mks (4./AufklBtl 6)
93+20 gy 0020 KZO no mks (2./ArtBtl 131) + an unmarked dummy
- gy (s/n 1013) Aladin no mks (2./AufklBtl 8), this is a dummy!
- gy Mikado no mks (2./AufklBtl 13)
and
D-FJMT bl/w/r PC-9 E.I.S Aircraft GmbH

International Static / Flightline:

337/4-IL gr Rafale B EC 01.004 port: SPA37 starboard: Gascogne
341/4-FH gr Rafale B EC 01.004 port: BR66 starboard: Gascogne
5836/61-PO dk gy C-130J-30 no mks (arrived 24.04.)
M.M.7349/36-54 gy F-2000A 36 Stormo
M.M.55217/61-13 gy T-346A 61 Stormo (arrived 24.04.)
5503 '03' blgy P-1 51 Kokutai
LX-N90458 (79-0458) gy +spcl '1sqn' 'NATO Tiger Meet' c/s E-3A NAEWF (arrived 24.04.) (to go to AMARC soon)
027 gy/gy C-295 no mks (arrived / departed 25.04.)
42 gy/gy MIG-29UB 1.elt 'Cedric Fauntleroy (1891-1963)' (arrived 25.04.)
16705 gy C-295M no mks (Esq 502)(arrived 24.04.)
E.25-21/1 spec CASA 101 Patrulla Aguila
E.25-62/2 spec CASA 101 Patrulla Aguila
E.25-52/3 spec CASA 101 Patrulla Aguila
E.25-31/4 spec CASA 101 Patrulla Aguila
E.25-13/5 spec CASA 101 Patrulla Aguila
E.25-87/- spec CASA 101 Patrulla Aguila
E.25-27/7 spec CASA 101 Patrulla Aguila
E.25-69/8 spec CASA 101 Patrulla Aguila (team flew today, with '8' as ground spare)
ZD983/- gr Chinook HC. no mks (RAF 100 mks) (arrived 24.04.) (solo display 25.04.)
ZK336/336 gy Typhoon FGR.4 1 Sqn (arrived 25.04.)
ZZ529 gy 536 (23/02/16) Wildcat HMA.2 no mks (arrived 24.04.) (not seen 25.04.)
07-7187 gy (y/bl fin band 'Charleston', 'The Spirit of Berlin') C-17A 437th AW (crews from 14th/15th/701st AS)
07-8608 gy 5622 (10MAR26)(382V-44S-94) (w/bl fin band) C-130J-30 37th AS / 86th AW
0050 dk gy CV-22B 7th SOS (arrived 24.04.)
91-0327/LNbl/w gy F-15E 492nd FS / 48th FW
90-0828/SPr/w gy F-16CM (MMC)480th FS / 52nd FW (Warhawks)
91-0352/SPr/w gy F-16CM (MMC)480th FS / 52nd FW (Sabers)(52 FW C/O)
11-5040/LF- gy F-35A-3F 61st FS / 56th FW (ex-hangar)
12-5054/LF- gy F-35A-3F 61st FS / 56th FW (ex-hangar)
(0)85429 gr AH-64D Co 'C'/ 1-3rd AVN, 12th CAB colour badge
13-08436 lt gr CH-47F (Co 'B'/1-214th AVN (GSAB) (historical 180th Avn Co Big Windy low-viz badge)
(unit renumbered from Co 'H' after deactivation of reserve unit at Fort Lewis)
166824/AB-304 gy F/A-18E VFA-136 'USS Harry S. Truman' (arrived 24.04.)
168269/AB-502 gy EA-18G VAQ-137 'USS Harry S. Truman' (arrived 24.04.)
169019/- gy CH-53K no mks (Sikorsky) (arrived 24.04.) (aircraft confirmed as a CH-53K, no YCH-53K!) (solo display)
168433/LD-433 gy P-8A no mks (VP-10)
168152/AB-710 (704849) (Nov-16) gy MH-60R HSM-72 'Proud Warriors' (arrived 25.04. from DDG-99 USS Farraygut via Portsmouth and Cologne)

Halls 1/2/4/5/6 are empty

Hall 3:

30+56 gy GS0040 EF 2000 TaktLwG 73
76+07 dk gy H 145M no mks (4./HSG 64)
78+12 liz TGEA0012 (1061) (2009) NH 90 THR 30
99+99 gy (001) LUNA NG no mks (first LUNA NG for Bundeswehr)

Outside near Hall 3:

82+56 liz 0104 (2001) EC 135T1 old HFlgWaS badge but with IntHubschrAusbZ (towed from Flightline, but not seen today)

Flightline (East):

31+00 gy + spcl gr/bk 'Ghost Tiger' c/s EF 2000 TaktLwG 74 - (solo)
30+95 gy GT0022 EF 2000(T) TaktLwG 74 - (FL)
30+78 gy GS0058 EF 2000 no mks - (FL), in the afternoon TaktLwG 71 (solo display)
31+11 gy GS0087 EF 2000 (Block 9) TaktLwG 74 - (towed FL-Static-FL)
31+16 gy AS0009 EF 2000 TaktLwG 31 - (FL-Static)
7.+.. liz UH-1D no mks / SAR (THR 30) - (SAR standby)
74+21 liz 1021 (12/2011) Tiger UHT (STEP 2) no mks (KHR 36) - (solo)
78+25 liz TGEA0025 (1115) (06/2014) NH 90 (trsp) THR 30 - (arr/dep 25.04.)
83+07 gy/w ... (../../..) Sea Lynx Mk 88A no mks (3./)MFG 5 - (solo)
D-FGMT bl/w/r PC-9 E.I.S Aircraft GmbH - (FL)
5508 '08' blgy P-1 3 Kokutai - (solo)
plus one French Air Force A 340 - (arr/dep 25.04.) ideas anyone?

Bundeswehr Flying Demos (24.04.):

10+27 gy A 310-304 MRTT (1./)FBS
45+09 gy Tornado IDS TaktLwG 33
46+11 gy Tornado IDS TaktLwG 33
46+23 gy Tornado ECR TaktLwG 51
46+40 gy Tornado ECR TaktLwG 51
50+39? liz C-160D LTG?
54+11 gy A 400M LTG 62
74+16 liz Tiger UHT no mks (KHR 36)
74+19 liz Tiger UHT no mks (KHR 36)
76+09 dk gy H 145M no mks (4./HSG 64)
76+10 dk gy H 145M no mks (4./HSG 64)
76+11 dk gy H 145M no mks (4./HSG 64)
76+13 dk gy H 145M no mks (4./HSG 64)
78+40 liz NH 90 mks?
79+02 liz NH 90 mks?
84+73 gr CH-53GA? mks? (HSG 64)

Bundeswehr Flying Demos (25.04.):

78+25 liz TGEA0025 (1115) (06/2014) NH 90 (trsp) THR 30
79+13 liz (....) (../....) NH 90 (trsp) no mks?
84+73 gr CH-53GA mks? (HSG 64)

Some Civilians of interest to us (but several more present):

D-CNEU w/bl/silv + camo nose 8206 (1992) Do 228-212 (NG) RUAG - 'Mupfl' (arrived 24.04.)
D-CXXX w/bk 15290 43-49474 C-47B Förderverein Rosinenbomber e.V.
D-ETPQ w/or 11103 G 120TP-A Grob Aircraft / H3 (arrived 24.04.)
D-FHHH gy 10200 (1993) G 520T Grob Aircraft / H3 (arrived 24.04.)
D-FHGK bl/dy 14/324 AT-6 Harvard Eichhorn Adventures (arrived 24.04.)
D-HEGU bl/silv No 2017 AS 332L1 no mks (arr / dep 25.04. with Mrs Merkel)
D-HMBE dk gy H 145M tbc (= BK 117D-2m) no mks (arrived 24.04.) (solo demo)
D-IFCC gy WNr. 79 CM-170R - 'Der Phoenix von Manching'(arrived 24.04.)
N343NA bl/dy 138343/212 T-28B Eichhorn Adventures (arrived 24.04.)
RA-2783G gr/bk/gy 1872462 Il-2 no mks (arrived 24.04.)
UR-82060 w/y/bl/gy An 225 Antonov (arrived 25.04.)

Happy to hear from anybody for corrections / additions - especially for the Bundeswehr Flying Demos and visiting aircraft!


Only one thought comes to mind ,somebody should send this list to DBH. Show them what a proper air show looks like
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